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33 minutes ago, burt said:

Latest idiot

:biggrin:

.... but in his defence ... Maybe this is also because of lack of documentation ... Addon makers can very well be "good will" coders / amateurs ... who struggle through the code and don't really understand the BIG PICTURE ....

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52 minutes ago, burt said:

Even when making things modular I still see addons uploaded where the addon maker is changing the module.  Instead of making a whole new module and saying "turn off the core module, upload and turn on my module".    It's a farce

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@burt

At least he managed to upload a few files. There are people just posting codes in the app description with a blank package.

Or worse, people asking for support using the app description.


When you ask for help/support:

  • Always state your osCommerce version
  • If possible, list up installed add-ons
  • 3rd party templates are not supported in the forum

Latest osC: osCommerce CE (Community Edition aka. v2.3.4.1 Frozen)

 

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29 minutes ago, azpro said:

.... but in his defence ... Maybe this is also because of lack of documentation ... Addon makers can very well be "good will" coders / amateurs ... who struggle through the code and don't really understand the BIG PICTURE ....

Also True!

4 minutes ago, Tsimi said:

At least he managed to upload a few files. There are people just posting codes in the app description with a blank package.

Or worse, people asking for support using the app description.

Also True!
 

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2 minutes ago, Tsimi said:

@burt

At least he managed to upload a few files. There are people just posting codes in the app description with a blank package.

Or worse, people asking for support using the app description.

shopowner makes the change.
core [let's say this particular file he changed] gets updated.
shopowner updates core appropriately

Result;

shopowner now wonders why that cool little feature he did have...is gone.
now he posts to the forum for help
whoever tries to help (because it aint gonna be the idiot uploader) has no idea

Damn.  I see what you are saying, but WTF - it would take all of 5 minutes to create a module that is completely separate. 

 


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This is an example of why there are 7000 addons. 
90% of these should not exist in their existing format.

How the hell 7000 addons is used for "marketing" osCommerce is just ... "    " (lost for words).

 


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9 hours ago, 14steve14 said:

It wouldnt be so bad if all of the 7000+ addons actually worked with the latest release. Half of them never worked properly from the word go on the version they were designed for.

 

2 hours ago, burt said:

Latest idiot

 

1 hour ago, azpro said:

in his defence ... Maybe this is also because of lack of documentation ... Addon makers can very well be "good will" coders / amateurs ... who struggle through the code and don't really understand the BIG PICTURE ...

 

1 hour ago, burt said:

This is an example of why there are 7000 addons. 
90% of these should not exist in their existing format.

How the hell 7000 addons is used for "marketing" osCommerce is just ... "    " (lost for words).

Burt (or the ones that can, if possible):

I see in:

https://apps.oscommerce.com/

When I go to:

https://apps.oscommerce.com/c=languages

The results are sorted by date (descending), but when I search:

https://apps.oscommerce.com/q=spanish

The results are showed in a random (?) or at least not in descending date.

Same when I'm loking for idiots or smarts:

https://apps.oscommerce.com/Profile&19108-demitry

It's there a way that someone will change a little the queries to avoid a lot of headache both for users and later, in the forum,  for the suffered volunteers, when the users ask for help about contributions or outdated or wrongly chosen?

I'm not familiar with 3.X. I think that the 3.X-web-oscommerce-site is in github. If you think that is a good idea I would like to try to find where you can change the queries to solve this issue (feature?) :laugh:

 

Edited by Antonio Garcia

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Antonio Garcia said:

...

Say again ?  As I did not really understand well any of what you just said. 

In any case, email your complaints about that section of the osCommerce site to HPDL.

Edited by burt

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1 hour ago, wHiTeHaT said:

2 with: https://oscompose.com/  :biggrin:

I noticed the template of the cm_ module is formatted for a box module...
Also the cm_ uses a hardcoded tpl_ link.  Would it be possible to change that? 


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13 minutes ago, burt said:

I noticed the template of the cm_ module is formatted for a box module...

Yes... i assumed someone would change it to his needs?
No idea to what i should change it else to?
Suggestions?

if i name my module "gary"
tpl will become:
 

    include('includes/modules/content/' . $this->group . '/templates/tpl_gary.php');


What would you like?
I was thinking it is better to keep using 1 name for all to keep it uniform.
no?

The idea is that you have a place-holder to build your own module.
Yet, it can be extended............
I was thinking together with:


Could "kind-off" make a close system.
At the end... when me make an app/module.
It have to be tested in osCommerce..... right?
 

Sorry for going off-topic guys.
 

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7 minutes ago, wHiTeHaT said:

Suggestions?

For the template output, they are usually more like this.
Note the .css selector which is the exact same as the cm_ module but with - (hyphen) instead of _ (undescore)

<div class="col-sm-<?php echo $content_width; ?> cm-pi-gary">
  STUFF HERE
</div>

 

For the tpl_, basename(__FILE__) would be cool...eg at https://github.com/gburton/Responsive-osCommerce/blob/master/includes/modules/content/index/cm_i_title.php#L41

So in this example;

  • /includes/modules/content/product_info/cm_pi_gary.php
  • /includes/modules/content/product_info/templates/tpl_cm_pi_gary.php
    this with .css selector as cm-pi-gary
  • /includes/languages/english/modules/content/product_info/cm_pi_gary.php

I think that would be a minute less work for the eventual end user.  Thoughts?


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20 minutes ago, burt said:

I dont' really care either as the harder it is to find crap addon

100% agree with you. The form must try to show the 'best' ones (may be yesterday someone upload a crap contribution but 8 days ago raiwa did another bether one but his contribution is not in a prominent place, in the top of the page...).

https://apps.oscommerce.com/q=modular

When

https://apps.oscommerce.com

shows a list by 'Relevancy' it points to a wrong result. I think.

 


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Yet here is the same guy, with a far more complicated thing...and it makes no core changes.

https://apps.oscommerce.com/iAvGO&faq-help-for-oscv2-3-4-bs-edge-v1-0

Seems he is not an idiot after all. 


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3 minutes ago, Antonio Garcia said:

shows a list by 'Relevancy' it points to a wrong result. I think.

Email your complaint to HPDL and hope he reads it and acts on it at some point in the future.


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1 minute ago, burt said:

Email your complaint to HPDL and hope he reads it and acts on it at some point in the future.

Ah!, ...ok, ...I understand!

I will do! :laugh:


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Use a name "henry Test"...

In the template the .css selector goes in as cm-pi-henry_Test (lower case with all hypens would be cool)

In the main file it may be nice to have class cm_henry_test (all lowercase) instead of class cm_henry_Test (camelcase)

These things are not important, just an cherry on the cake. 


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The point of view of one of the partners about this subject:

http://www.ozeworks.com/oscommerce-then-and-now/

 


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Posted (edited)
41 minutes ago, wHiTeHaT said:

It's on now!

Brilliant!

Important step to build a Closed and yet Open/Versatile eco-system!

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