[Contribution] NEW Australia Post Shipping Modules for osC 2.3.x

[auzStar 148]

awesome, following that setup 0.5kg works.

 

its not that far off satchel or parcel, it really comes down to the parcel dimensions which is not calculated individually per product anyway

 

the "savings" issue is when items fit in a satchel, the price is FIXED Australia wide.

my work around would be to just set the weights for those products to 0.5

 

3000 > 6000

 

0.5kg parcel -  $7.45

0.5kg stachel - $8.25

 

Ok,

BUT big difference on larger weights:

 

3000 > 6000

 

3kg parcel - $22.30

3kg satchel -  $13.40

 

5kg parcel - $28.60

5kg satchel -  $17.10

 

this would not be appealing for customers in those expensive areas,

 

any thoughts for a work around?

very keen on the "no signature" requirements fix also.

 

thanks (y)

 

@@mafiouso

 

As already mentioned "These current modules are not designed to work with satchels and envelopes".

There needs to be separate modules created specifically for these to pull the data from Auspost and perform the relevant calculations.

If you want this done how about contacting Commercial Support http://forums.oscommerce.com/forum/84-commercial-support/ and paying for a service. If no one there can help then pm me. 

 

The "no signature requirements" is not a fix, it's a request for a modification to the module. 

[mafiouso 0]

these are end user suggestions to make this add-on generally more useful.

 

im not sure why everyone by default would want signature on delivery for every parcel when they all include tracking by default these days under $300

 

i also highlight the price \ savings difference with parcels and satchels.

there is still an issue of how the cart would know the volume to determine if a satchel is suitable or a parcel if necessary

but it could be as simple as all products with weights set to  1050, 1300, 1500 (500g, 3,kg, 5kg) would use that satchel price

if

other items are added calc =

 

at the end of the day, the total sale price can determine a sale outcome. no doubt a customer can shop around to save even $1.

 

these are simply suggestions

 

the addon outside this works well. thanks

 

 

 

@@mafiouso

 

As already mentioned "These current modules are not designed to work with satchels and envelopes".

There needs to be separate modules created specifically for these to pull the data from Auspost and perform the relevant calculations.

If you want this done how about contacting Commercial Support http://forums.oscommerce.com/forum/84-commercial-support/ and paying for a service. If no one there can help then pm me. 

 

The "no signature requirements" is not a fix, it's a request for a modification to the module. 

[auzStar 148]

@@mafiouso

 

"Signature on delivery" is not the default for every parcel. There are other shipping options without "signature on delivery" available for parcels also. The Auspost parcel delivery options available in the module are exactly the same as what is available at Auspost and the Auspost shipping calculator for parcels. The module was never intended to be used for satchels, it's documented. (fyi, tracking wasn't always included)

 

If the options for satchels were available, the cart would not be expected to distinguish between satchels or parcel delivery options to determine which ones to make available, you as the admin would enable/disable shipping modules in admin based on your products and how you prefer to delivery them.

 

It would be a fairly complex shipping module if it were to distinguish between satchels or parcels. Would you be prepared to pay for it.

 

Don't forget, as it stands, this is a free product, so don't expect services here that you would expect to get for paid products. A lot of the osCommerce work done here is provided freely, in available spare time.

Edited August 25, 2015 by auzStar

[mafiouso 0]

@@mafiouso

 

"Signature on delivery" is not the default for every parcel.

it is a defult option that cannot be turned off. therefore the customer can select it when not desired by the store owner. this makes things much more complicated when posting.

 

There are other shipping options without "signature on delivery" available for parcels also. The Auspost parcel delivery options available in the module are exactly the same as what is available at Auspost and the Auspost shipping calculator for parcels.  the SOD option cannot be turned off and will always be available at checkout

 

 

The module was never intended to be used for satchels, it's documented. (fyi, tracking wasn't always included)

auspost changed to a tracking on all items late 2014, SOD is extreme for basic parcels

 

If the options for satchels were available, the cart would not be expected to distinguish between satchels or parcel delivery options to determine which ones to make available, you as the admin would enable/disable shipping modules in admin based on your products and how you prefer to delivery them.

my issue is giving the customer to many choices which causes issues and more work for the seller. for example if the shopping module is not accurate or giving the best deal the customer will feel ripped off (like the examples of cost i gave in the last reply parcel vs satchel to 6000). or if the seller can cut the cost by using a satchel over a parcel but the cart says parcel then you get those customer that question it. if the cart just shows the "total postage" all calculated in the back end then the seller can use what ever mixed method to achieve an outcome. even save a little on rrp.

 

on the price differences depending on the dimensions of the products, as i said at the end of the day charging the customer the best postage rate is most important.

x2 3kg box as a parcel could be $35-45 to WA,NT, QLD but x2 3kg satchels would be fixed price $24

 

It would be a fairly complex shipping module if it were to distinguish between satchels or parcels. Would you be prepared to pay for it.

i think the easiest way would be to use the shipping weight to determine what price and method to use... ie 1050, 1300, 1500 (500g, 3,kg, 5kg)

then the shipping module in the back end would...

 

if item in cart is :

wieght 1050 (500g stacel) use satchel price

weight  3kg  (parcel) use   parcel price

wieght 1300 (3kg stacel) use satchel price

 

then ADD total, and spit out postage price to cart.

if any of the parcel items are over $300 add fee

same if extra cover is selected on total or enable by seller

the seller would choose suitable products to give the satchel weigt

 

anyway there are just ideas that could suit many stores because the issue remains when having 2 separate shipping modules or parcel and satchels and the customer can choose some items end up costing more or less as the cart wont factor in diminutions.

 

 

Don't forget, as it stands, this is a free product, so don't expect services here that you would expect to get for paid products. A lot of the osCommerce work done here is provided freely, in available spare time. if there is an interested in this, which i would expect others would want a full package. there is always the option of a crowd funding or donations arrangement.

[auzStar 148]

@@mafiouso

 

FYI, I don't work for osCommerce and I don't work for Auspost. I created this module in my free time and decided to make it available to other aussie users of osCommerce. As I've already stated the module uses the parcel shipping options that are available at Auspost. Just because tracking is automatically included by default does not mean that a parcel is hand delivered to the end customer. Signature on delivery guarantees that the parcel is 100% hand delivered to the customer who has to sign for it. Why do you want to remove this option from customers who may want this for added reassurance, and why do Auspost also still have this as an option? If the customer does not want signature on delivery, to save on shipping costs, then they will not choose it.

 

As I said all the options that are available at Auspost are available in the module. While this might not suit all shop owners I think that most will find this module very useful. What other Auspost shipping modules are there that can be used for free and that work this well.

 

Edited August 26, 2015 by auzStar

[mafiouso 0]

"As I said all the options that are available at Auspost are available in the module. While this might not suit all shop owners I think that most will find this module very useful. What other Auspost shipping modules are there that can be used for free and that work this well."

 

as i already said its not necessary for cheap or small items that are sent by satchel or small parcel, and time consuming when posting what items have it and which dont. its annoying that it cant be turned off and its forced on the seller.

 

"FYI, I don't work for osCommerce and I don't work for Auspost"

 

not sure where you read i suggested that.

 

and again... these are suggestions to make a better general module who ever may do the modifications as some point.

 

 

@@mafiouso

 

FYI, I don't work for osCommerce and I don't work for Auspost. I created this module in my free time and decided to make it available to other aussie users of osCommerce. As I've already stated the module uses the parcel shipping options that are available at Auspost. Just because tracking is automatically included by default does not mean that a parcel is hand delivered to the end customer. Signature on delivery guarantees that the parcel is 100% hand delivered to the customer who has to sign for it. Why do you want to remove this option from customers who may want this for added reassurance, and why do Auspost also still have this as an option? If the customer does not want signature on delivery, to save on shipping costs, then they will not choose it.

 

As I said all the options that are available at Auspost are available in the module. While this might not suit all shop owners I think that most will find this module very useful. What other Auspost shipping modules are there that can be used for free and that work this well.

[auzStar 148]

@@mafiouso

 

So you want to remove the option for a customer to choose signature on delivery when an order may cost $300 but it's OK to have signature on delivery when an order costs $301.

 

"FYI, I don't work for osCommerce and I don't work for Auspost"

not sure where you read i suggested that.

 

What I meant by that is, you are expecting services as though you had paid for them, judging by the way you've been making requests to have the module changed ASAP.

Quotes from your previous posts:

"hope someone can help asap"
"its one of the last few things holding back lunch"
"very keen on the "no signature" requirements fix also"

 

You keep mentioning satchels. The module/s would require major changes to include pulling in satchel prices as well and then to write the logic to determine which shipping options to offer.

 

All that you're asking can be done, but don't just expect people to drop everything to modify a module (provided for free) to your liking (asap and for free) when the module can do the job that it was designed to do, as it was written for parcels.

 

Signature on delivery guarantees that the parcel is 100% hand delivered to the customer who has to sign for it. Why do you want to remove this option from customers who may want this for added reassurance (when an order may be close to the $300  mark), and why do Auspost also still have this as an option? If the customer does not want signature on delivery, to save on shipping costs, then they will not choose it.

Edited August 27, 2015 by auzStar

[mafiouso 0]

 

So you want to remove the option for a customer to choose signature on delivery when an order may cost $300 but it's OK to have signature on delivery when an order costs $301.

yes seller having the choice to offer SOD for under $300 orders, over $300 its a requirement from auspost

 

 

"FYI, I don't work for osCommerce and I don't work for Auspost"

not sure where you read i suggested that.

 

What I meant by that is, you are expecting services as though you had paid for them, judging by the way you've been making requests to have the module changed ASAP.

Quotes from your previous posts:

"hope someone can help asap"

"its one of the last few things holding back lunch"

"very keen on the "no signature" requirements fix also"

 

dude... asking how "I" can make a possible change to remove SOD is hardly asking for a "service" and it was a open question. not directed to you.

 

 

You keep mentioning satchels. The module/s would require major changes to include pulling in satchel prices as well and then to write the logic to determine which shipping options to offer.

i keep mentioning the issue of price difference with parcel and satchel as its a problem most sellers will have

 

All that you're asking can be done, but don't just expect people to drop everything to modify a module (provided for free) to your liking (asap and for free) when the module can do the job that it was designed to do, as it was written for parcels.

great. so if anyone is interested they can look into these ideas and contribute if you are not interested. i have already said if money is a issue donations and crowd funding can be looked into making this a generally better module for everyone to use.

 

Signature on delivery guarantees that the parcel is 100% hand delivered to the customer who has to sign for it. Why do you want to remove this option from customers who may want this for added reassurance (when an order may be close to the $300  mark), and why do Auspost also still have this as an option? If the customer does not want signature on delivery, to save on shipping costs, then they will not choose it.

i have answered this at least 3 times now...   it may suit your use but others may not want it.

 

"as i already said its not necessary for cheap or small items that are sent by satchel or small parcel, and time consuming when posting what items have it and which dont. its annoying that it cant be turned off and its forced on the seller. "

 

 

Edited August 27, 2015 by mafiouso

[mafiouso 0]

any update on this? at least removing "signature on delivery"  on std shipping.

[ce7 7]

hi, thanks for this addon.

 

i am stuck in the installation instruction manual modify the file for

catalog/checkout_shipping.php step 3

 

insert at line 166 the code below (so that the new code appears before this "}") (lines should then be 166 to 172)
(remove wordwrapping first before copying this code)

can you please post the code you mean:

(so that the new code appears before this "}") (lines should then be 166 to 172)

 

after add the code from step 2, the code below new code is:

              tep_redirect(tep_href_link(FILENAME_CHECKOUT_PAYMENT, '', 'SSL'));
            }
          }
        } else {
          tep_session_unregister('shipping');
        }
      }
    } else {
      $shipping = false;
                
      tep_redirect(tep_href_link(FILENAME_CHECKOUT_PAYMENT, '', 'SSL'));
    }    
  }

 

so may I know in which line you ask to put your new code?

//******begin Auspost shipping modules changes
//******begin new code
      } else {
        // added - unregister shipping if there is no $HTTP_POST_VARS['shipping'] with '_' (standard format for the selected shipping method) - this can happen when only one shipping module is installed but this module has an error so there will no $HTTP_POST_VARS['shipping'] with '_', so need to unregister shipping to prevent completing checkout
        tep_session_unregister('shipping');
//******end new code
//******end Auspost shipping modules changes

 

thanks!

Edited October 13, 2015 by ce7

[ce7 7]

after step 4, the your line 339 appearently is not the same line 339 as mine, mine code after step 4, from line 333 to line 343 is as below:

      $radio_buttons = 0;
      for ($i=0, $n=sizeof($quotes); $i<$n; $i++) {
?>

      <tr>
        <td colspan="3"><strong><?php echo $quotes[$i]['module']; ?></strong> <?php if (isset($quotes[$i]['icon']) && tep_not_null($quotes[$i]['icon'])) { echo $quotes[$i]['icon']; } ?></td>
      </tr>

<?php
        if (isset($quotes[$i]['error'])) {
?>

 

so which one below is your line 339?

for ($i=0, $n=sizeof($quotes); $i<$n; $i++) {
?>

 

or

 if (isset($quotes[$i]['error'])) {
?>

 

or something else?

 

could you please kindly update the instruction, as the line number at your maybe different to mind because I have installed other addons. Instead of talking about line number, can you please say something like,

 

Step 4

find code: 

$radio_buttons = 0;  -------------> this will be easier for reader to find the code, instead of tell the line number of the code. (sorry I am not good at PHP programming code, i can not figure out where the code should be by the line number.)

 

add the following code before $radio_buttons = 0;
...

....

...

 

thanks!

Edited October 13, 2015 by ce7

[auzStar 148]

@ce7

 

Hi Lyn,

 

First, please make sure you are using the correct version on the installation files and instructions for your osCommerce version.

You should then be able to work out from the "checkout_shipping.php" file that is supplied with the package (for that version) where you should be putting the new code. (it has the new code already in there just like the instructions)

 

If you are still having difficulty due to your other add-ons then can you please let me know which version you are using and paste the contents of your "checkout_shipping.php" file so that I can try to assist you.

 

FYI the instructions do tell what code to look for in relation to the line numbers :)

 

cheers

Edited October 13, 2015 by auzStar

[ce7 7]

Hi @auzStar,

 

thank you very much for your quick reply.

I managed to install after hours struggle.

Not sure if it is the problem I did wrong when trying to modify the file, i am now facing problem with no effect after setting up the API via moduel / shipping / install in the backend.

 

i can install, and i can modify the individual australia post services, but after enable it, none of them show up in the front page checkout_shipping.php page.

 

what should I check or I better to reinstall from the beginning again?

 

thanks!

 

Lyn

[auzStar 148]

@ce7

 

Hi Lyn,

 

Is this a new store?

 

Are all your other admin settings setup correctly for an Australian shop. ie the "Location/Taxes" section configured correctly, specifically "Zones" and "Tax Zones" which need to have entries for Australia and also the store country/zone needs to be set to Australia/{your state} under "Configuration->My Store". Also remember to set the "Shipping Zone" to Australia for each shipping module when the above settings are complete.

It is assumed that these settings are correct for this module to work.

 

After checking the above, can you test with another Shipping module as well, such as "flat rate" shipping and see if that works.

 

cheers

[ce7 7]

@auzStar

 

Once again, thank you for quick reply. :thumbsup:

 

About the issues you mentioned:

 

1. version

osC version has upgrade to 2.3.4, therefore I used the v2.3.4 install instruction

 

2. exit osC shop

this is not a new store, I have more then 50 addons installed for this shop

 

3. The shop location/Tax setting

Yes, it all sets up as it should be Australia with 10% taxable goods

 

4. Flat rate / Per Item / United States Postal Service

are all working as it should be.

Eg, Per item $20 with taxable goods, so it shows up $22.

Eg2. Flat rate $30 with taxable goods, so it shows up $33

 

this is my setting example for Australia Post Courier Post

 

Enable Australia Post Courier Post (domestic)
True

API Key
xx7xxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx

Contact Server
Live

Dispatch Postcode
xxxx

Cut off Time
13

Allow zero stock
False

Enable available shipping options
both

Display icon
True

Preferred icon
auspost/ap.gif

Handling Fee
3.00

Handling Fee Method
True

Delivery Message
True

Reduce maximum weight
0

Allow split orders
True

Split using Max Weight
True

Hide module when products are over weight
True

Parcel Height (mm)
100

Parcel Width (mm)
100

Parcel Depth (mm)
100

Shipping Zone
Australian Zones

Tax Class
Taxable Goods

Sort order of display.
1

 

do i need to modify any code within those files under modules/shipping?

 

none of them show up in the front end....

 

I had apply the key, do i need to apply just 1 key for all shipping, or I need to apply individual key for each shipping method?

 

thanks!

 

Lyn

[ce7 7]

tried to modified the zone and sort order, and make sure it all set to live, not test, with the same KEY from Australia post,

so far, only Australia Post Express Post and Australia Post Parcel Post come up the front page.

 

(However each one has 4 price, all show $0.00)

 

Australia Post Express Post

Shipping to Addr (zip): 1 box - 3.06 kg(s) total

1 Day Processing + Guranteed next business day livery within the Express Post network:

$0.00

$0.00

$0.00

$0.00

 

Australi Post Parcel Post

Shipping to Addr (zip): 1 box - 3.06 kg(s) total

1 Day Processing + Delivery in 2 or more business days:

$0.00

$0.00

$0.00

$0.00

 

 

And still have issue with no show of:

 

Australia Post Courier Post

 

I guess, the International ones only appear in the front page when the shipping address is set to overseas?

 

 

Just changed the address from Australia to overseas,

 

all the flat rate, per item, United State, and Australia Post has disappear. No Australia Post International appear....

 

 

What should I check which part of code......?

 

thanks!

 

Lyn

Edited October 15, 2015 by ce7

[auzStar 148]

@ce7

 

No you don't need to modify any code under modules/shipping.

 

The same key you received from Auspost is used for all the Auspost shipping modules.

 

Anyway, it seems it may be working now. "Australia Post Courier Post" won't show up if your local time is past the cut-off time for this delivery option.

 

Yes, international ones only appear if the customer's shipping address is overseas.

 

Check your settings for the international ones, try setting the Shipping Zone to "none".

 

cheers

Edited October 15, 2015 by auzStar

[auzStar 148]

@ce7

 

If you're prices are zero then there must be a problem with your installation as mine is working fine and I know other setups are also working.

 

Double check your file changes with the documentation and if needed refer to the files that are included with the version of the package that you're using to find the where the code changes are required to be done correctly.

 

In the meantime I'll try to see where the code is that processes the costs to display correctly.

 

cheers





[pingpongrob 0]

Hi Frank, Installed the Australian Postage Module into a new OSCommerce store - Thanks for the contribution.

My Problem is that the postal charges that are displayed are all EX GST. I have set up the zones correctly, and my cart updates the product with gst, but not the postage fee.

 

Am I doing something wrong, or is there a bit of code missing.

 

site: www.justtabletennis.com.au

 

The product i'm using for testing is "Plasma 380" all other products are as per fresh install.

 

Thanks in advance.

Rob

[auzStar 148]

@@pingpongrob

 

Hi Robert,

 

In the shipping modules, have you set the "tax class" to your gst tax rate? Although the AusPost shipping costs already include gst, the shipping modules remove it first then it is added back through the normal tax flow of the osCommerce tax calculations, so that tax totals will be calculated correctly.

 

cheers
 

[ce7 7]

@auzStar

 

Hi, it ce7 again.

 

I did not really fix problem list previously as Australia Post never reply me back after half year past, two years ago i tried to contact with them, no respond at all as well. Very frustrated with bad Australia Post services.

 

Anyway, I still use your key to show the postage, because if i use the key I applied from Australia post, i will get the error message as below:

Sorry, you are not authorised to use this service.

 

And not show if it is because it is not my key, so if clients click on the paypal express button, the postage will not add on top of the shopping cart total, if there a way manually to let client to enter the postage before pay the paypal account?

 

thanks!

[auzStar 148]

@@ce7

 

Can you supply me with a link to your store so that I can check it.

 

Also can you pm me your key so that I can test it.

 

thanks

[mafiouso 0]

just started getting this error? possibly a server upgrade or something. nothing has been changed by myself

 

Warning: array_multisort(): Argument #1 is expected to be an array or a sort flag in/home/user/public_html/shopping/checkout_shipping.php on line 334

 

line 344:       array_multisort($quote, SORT_ASC, $quotes); // sort modules by cost (by the first method cost which has already been sorted above)

 

 

any advice? thanks

[mafiouso 0]

fixed: was an issue with product weight being to high

[ce7 7]

fixed: was an issue with product weight being to high

hi, i have the same error, but i did not enter the high information to my product, and it did not happen to all other products, just a certain product, can you please kindly mentioned which file and which part of code to check with? Many thanks!