xciso Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hello I installed last summer, "Ultimate SEO URLs" (Ultimate SEO 2-2.2d-8) Is this the best url seo tool? Are there others who are better so it's worth installing another? Then I will also install one of the "Header Tags" What is the best there today? Are there any more i need to have full SEO support? Please write the addons you have for best SEO. Thanks in advance! My shop is in 2.2RC2a with STS Many thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥14steve14 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If it was me, i would personally keep with ultimate urls but use the latest version created by jack_mcs. I would then also add header_tags seo, sitemap seo all products seo, all categories seo and google sitemaps. All these contributions are made and supported by the same person, so all work well together. Quote REMEMBER BACKUP, BACKUP AND BACKUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xciso Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) OK thanks! If I install all these does it take "meta" too? Do you want to send links to all so I get the right ones? :) Edited January 15, 2011 by xciso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥FWR Media Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) Hello I installed last summer, "Ultimate SEO URLs" (Ultimate SEO 2-2.2d-8) Is this the best url seo tool? Are there others who are better so it's worth installing another? Then I will also install one of the "Header Tags" What is the best there today? Are there any more i need to have full SEO support? Please write the addons you have for best SEO. Thanks in advance! My shop is in 2.2RC2a with STS Many thanks in advance! Up to you what you use but the original Ultimate Seo Urls is a dinosaur from 2005 which has been ( added to ) it is not maintained by the original author. Ultimate seo Urls 5 PRO is massively more powerful and efficient and is built using 2011 code as well as offering an osCommerce website for the first time the ability to be indexed seperately for all of it's languages. USU5 will work with anything that is written correctly as all it does is create urls using the osCommerce tep_db_link() function. USU5 PRO also includes XML sitemaps. Re: meta tags it depends what you want. KissMT is again modern code it dynamically creates all meta tags and also canonical elements for your site and it does it fully dynamically requiring no effort from you and installs in seconds. If you need to manually create your page titles etc however then this is not for you. ( although the functionality will be added ). One of the alternatives is header tags which again is not maintained by the original author. See my sig if interested in those contributions. Edited January 15, 2011 by FWR Media Quote Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdcelec Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 .... KissMT is again modern code it dynamically creates all meta tags and also canonical elements for your site and it does it fully dynamically requiring no effort from you and installs in seconds. If you need to manually create your page titles etc however then this is not for you. ( although the functionality will be added ). See my sig if interested in those contributions. Although, they can be edited in /public_html/includes/languages/english/kissmt.php This is the method that I use at present until..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xciso Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Why are you people building 2 of everything? Is this like Porsche VS Ferrari? Some guys say: Use the addons from jack_mcs Some guys say: Use the addons from FWR Media Its not easy to choose. Why are jack_mcs best? Why are FWR Media best? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥FWR Media Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) Why are you people building 2 of everything? Is this like Porsche VS Ferrari? Some guys say: Use the addons from jack_mcs Some guys say: Use the addons from FWR Media Its not easy to choose. Why are jack_mcs best? Why are FWR Media best? Thanks. Ultimate Seo Urls series two is an old contribution from 2005 written by Bobby Easland ( Chemo ). It was tidied up and the bugs removed by me in version 2.1d ORIGINAL updated ( November 2008 ). Since then Jack_mcs has taken my version as the base then has added a few bits e.g. code that uses header tags seo, other than that it is the same old code over 3000 lines long. the code is old and dated and I got fed up with supporting it so I wrote a totally new version from the ground up using modern modular PHP 5 code, there is now a PRO version which is totally new. For comparison read the support thread of Ultimate Seo Urls 5 or you can see the following .. http://www.fwrmedia....pro_comparison/ Edited January 16, 2011 by FWR Media Quote Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Is your new mod compatible with header tags seo and all products seo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥FWR Media Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Is your new mod compatible with header tags seo and all products seo? USU5 is compatible with anything and everything just so long as it is correctly written. Header tags breaks when ANY path based uri is used .. it is buggy! Having said that, this bug in header tags can be avoided by choosing the rewrite method of USU5 which emulates chemos old seo urls. All products seo breaks because it uses file names with hyphen instead of underscore, if Jack_mcs read the osCommerce coding standards then he might write his contributions correctly. USU5 purposefully will not process this file as it is invalid input. This is simple to fix just correct the filename to what it should have been, all_products.php and not all-products.php ( if I'm remembering the correct file ). burt 1 Quote Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdcelec Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 USU5 is compatible with anything and everything just so long as it is correctly written. Header tags breaks when ANY path based uri is used .. it is buggy! Having said that, this bug in header tags can be avoided by choosing the rewrite method of USU5 which emulates chemos old seo urls. All products seo breaks because it uses file names with hyphen instead of underscore, if Jack_mcs read the osCommerce coding standards then he might write his contributions correctly. USU5 purposefully will not process this file as it is invalid input. This is simple to fix just correct the filename to what it should have been, all_products.php and not all-products.php ( if I'm remembering the correct file ). ALSO correct the filename catalog/includes/languages/all_products.php and not catalog/includes/languages/all-products.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_mcs Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 ALSO correct the filename catalog/includes/languages/all_products.php and not catalog/includes/languages/all-products.php Doing that is not a correction. It would be lowering the SEO effect and is not recommended. Changing the code so it works with some other contribution is nonsense. Quote Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdcelec Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 USU5 is compatible with anything and everything just so long as it is correctly written. Header tags breaks when ANY path based uri is used .. it is buggy! Having said that, this bug in header tags can be avoided by choosing the rewrite method of USU5 which emulates chemos old seo urls. All products seo breaks because it uses file names with hyphen instead of underscore, if Jack_mcs read the osCommerce coding standards then he might write his contributions correctly. USU5 purposefully will not process this file as it is invalid input. This is simple to fix just correct the filename to what it should have been, all_products.php and not all-products.php ( if I'm remembering the correct file ). My reply (below) was to the above post ALSO correct the filename catalog/includes/languages/all_products.php and not catalog/includes/languages/all-products.php Doing that is not a correction. It would be lowering the SEO effect and is not recommended. Changing the code so it works with some other contribution is nonsense. There will always be conflicting opinions. My opinion, you are both CORRECT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥FWR Media Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Doing that is not a correction. It would be lowering the SEO effect and is not recommended. Changing the code so it works with some other contribution is nonsense. LOL you and your supposed SEO knowledge, it does make me laugh. "all-products.php" a hyphen in a filename has an seo effect does it Jack :rolleyes: Just enough knowledge to be dangerous .. scarey. Quote Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Biancoblu Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I find this battle between coders (FWR Media and Jack) over who writes the best contributions a little useless to the rest of us. Like many here, I am not a coder, just an oscommerce user trying to figure out what contributions are best for my shop. I have used the 2.2ms2 milestone version since 2006 with several of Jack's SEO contributions and never had a problem. Now however I am rebuilding my shop on the 2.3.1 version and am given several errors when trying to install Jack's SEO contributions (but perhaps it's just me making mistakes), hence my searching for threads relating to SEO addons, and I often run into conflicting information where some people swear by one coder's addons whilst others knock them down and vice versa. To the profane it doesn't help much to know the difference between the use of an underscore or a hyphen or that something breaks when a path based uri is used. I am not attacking anyone, I think all you guys here coding for free for an open source project make wonderful work and we would be lost without you. Like someone pointed out earlier on, I guess it really is down to decide if you prefer Porsche or Ferrari, but personally I prefer Lamborghini...what do I do now? back to square one I guess. ;) Quote ~ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥FWR Media Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I find this battle between coders (FWR Media and Jack) over who writes the best contributions a little useless to the rest of us. There is no battle between me and Jack over who writes the best contributions. Jack sometimes makes statements like: - It would be lowering the SEO effect and is not recommended Related to a hyphen in a file name which is clearly rubbish. His minor adaptation of Chemos Ultimate Seo Urls is the ONLY url rewriter which is 100% compatible with other contributions. This is also rubbish and when you have spent many hours writing for the community a completely new an more modern version it is somewhat offensive. I tend to react when he does this as I see it as misleading users, I do not however view him as a competitor in any way shape or form. Jack puts in a ton of effort adapting old contributions which are no longer supported for which he should be applauded, we just have our occasional "run ins". Quote Ultimate SEO Urls 5 PRO - Multi Language Modern, Powerful SEO Urls KissMT Dynamic SEO Meta & Canonical Header Tags KissER Error Handling and Debugging KissIT Image Thumbnailer Security Pro - Querystring protection against hackers ( a KISS contribution ) If you found my post useful please click the "Like This" button to the right. Please only PM me for paid work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_mcs Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Now however I am rebuilding my shop on the 2.3.1 version and am given several errors when trying to install Jack's SEO contributions (but perhaps it's just me making mistakes), hence my searching for threads relating to SEO addons, and I often run into conflicting information where some people swear by one coder's addons whilst others knock them down and vice versa. To the profane it doesn't help much to know the difference between the use of an underscore or a hyphen or that something breaks when a path based uri is used. I am not attacking anyone, I think all you guys here coding for free for an open source project make wonderful work and we would be lost without you. Like someone pointed out earlier on, I guess it really is down to decide if you prefer Porsche or Ferrari, but personally I prefer Lamborghini...what do I do now? back to square one I guess. ;) If you are having problems with one of my contributions, or anyone's for that matter, you should ask about it in its support thread. Of all of my SEO-type contributions, only Header Tags SEO, Ultimate SEO V2.2d and Google XML Sitemap SEO will work with 2.3, at the moment, but no one has mentioned any problems with them working in a 2.3 shop. And I have installed them myself into such shops without any problems. So if you are having problems with one of those, it is either some mistake you are making or some problem I am not aware of. If you are looking for someone to tell you which contributions to use, there's no one that can do that. Even if I supplied you with a list of many sites that are successful after installing my contributions, I'm sure others can do the same with other contrbutions. That's because SEO contributions are just a way to begin SEO'ing a site. They do not, and cannot, do the whole job and the result they provide will vary with the site. I think, like with any contribution, you need to decide whether to use it based on if you need the options it offers and whether the programer writes solid code. Header Tags SEO and Ultimate SEO V2.2d offer options not available in any other contribution. If you want/need those options, then there's no choice as to which to choose. If you don't, then decide on which you think is best based on the opinions of others. There's really no other way to choose, that I can think of. Quote Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Biancoblu Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Thanks Robert and Jack for replying. Jack, it's probably me making errors and yes I should post in the contribution thread, but a lot of confusion arises due to the fact that instructions are based on older versions whilst now on 2.3.1 the code differs, so it's confusing to understand how to proceed, at least it is for me, but with that I'm not criticising your work which is outstanding, like Robert's. Quote ~ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_mcs Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Thanks Robert and Jack for replying. Jack, it's probably me making errors and yes I should post in the contribution thread, but a lot of confusion arises due to the fact that instructions are based on older versions whilst now on 2.3.1 the code differs, so it's confusing to understand how to proceed, at least it is for me, but with that I'm not criticising your work which is outstanding, like Robert's. I include separate install instructions for 2.3, where applicable, so you must be looking in the wrong directory of the contribution. Or, of course, I may have made a mistake but without someone reporting it, I will never know. No need to apologize for being critical (not that you were). Many others have criticized my contribution and many others probably will again. I'm not so thin-skinned to take offense at statements made by others here. To me, it's laughable when someone does. Quote Support Links: For Hire: Contact me for anything you need help with for your shop: upgrading, hosting, repairs, code written, etc. All of My Addons Get the latest versions of my addons Recommended SEO Addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoofy Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 IMO Isabella, I much rather prefer to use Robert's USU5 Pro. I have tested it with over 75k products and it works flawlessly. Making modifications is a piece of cake. And it is very very stable. I haven't come across any other contribution which has interfered with USU5 Pro. Quote My Contributions: Google XML Sitemap SEO compatible with Ultimate SEO URL by FWR Media ::: Accurate & Precise Bread Crumb Trail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Biancoblu Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Thanks for the suggestion Spoofy :) Quote ~ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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