gamesxs Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hi all, only been 2 years since I was on here, life changes etc! Anyway, was asked by my sister to make a site for her, no problem I thought, download oscommerce and sorted, how wrong was I!!!! So in the past have used oscommerce but am not a programmer or a professional website builder, just a bloke who likes to learn! Got version 2.3.1 Installed it Thought I would change it! Wrong. Searched this forum for answers, love you all but 2.3.1 is hugely different! You will now have new members completely lost, they will search for the basics and try to find such things as column_left files etc, which don't exist! Your basic old help forum chats will not now help new people. I thought that I must have forgotten loads so I re-read all the basic question files. No help for 2.3.1 to start with! I thought this cant be right, so searched more, Burt solved things but he doesn't know it. (thanks Burt) When to his site and he spoke about a thing called 960 grid????? Searched for 960 grid, found it, learnt a bit. Without finding about this I could never, if completely new, had any chance with 2.3.1 Burt thanks. (was going to buy a template from you but because of your teaching on your site, wont need to.) So, 960 grid.. Start off I would like to say that there is no column left or right files. These are now modules. 2.3.1 has 24 columns ( again search for 960 grid, it will tell you 12 or 16, but you can have 24) The body content of oscommerce has 16 columns.( index.php)and is pushed right by 4 columns The categories boxes have 4 columns.(and are controlled mainly by template top, template bottom, header, footer) Not completely true but a place to start. The setup of this is: The container is how large your site can be, it is 960 pixels wide. container_24 (all rows must add up to 24 columns), a column is called a grid. Therefore grid_5 means 5 columns. All numbers below are pixels there is a margin of 5 pixels either side. grid_ 1. 30 2. 70 3. 110 4. 150 5. 190 6. 230 7. 270 8. 310 9. 350 10. 390 11. 430 12. 470 13. 510 14. 550 15. 590 16. 630 17. 670 18. 710 19. 750 20. 790 21. 830 22. 870 23. 910 24. 950 You can push and pull objects, so left and right, these also have a pixel value: push right pull left push_then number or pull_then number 1. 40 -40 2. 80 -80 3. 120 -120 4. 160 -160 5. 200 -200 6. 240 -240 7. 280 -280 8. 320 -320 9. 360 -360 10. 400 -400 11. 440 -440 12. 480 -480 13. 520 -520 14. 560 -560 15. 600 -600 16. 640 -640 17. 680 -680 18. 720 -720 19. 760 -760 20. 800 -800 21. 840 -840 22. 880 -880 23. 920 -920 More things: prefix-5 (leave blank 5 columns before object) etc. suffix_2 (leave blank 2 columns after object) etc. nested grid units. alpha and omega class. alpha ("first") and omega ("last") classes that must be applied to any grid units that are the children of other grids. Obviously, the alpha class will be applied to the first child and the omega class to the last child. Essentially, these classes provide a margin fix so that you can nest grid units inside of other grid units. I know that I have not explained this well but I am only now learning it. But I hope it helps. 2.3.1 is different to the version I knew, and I think it needs a different forum. if I had the faintest clue regarding exactly what it was that I may or may not be doing, I would stop it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesxs Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Also, as I can find, to change colours of info boxes, you need to change things in: catalog/ext/jquery/ui/redmond/jquery-ui-1.8.6.css (some of these are images) Difficult for new users!!!!!!!!! if I had the faintest clue regarding exactly what it was that I may or may not be doing, I would stop it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥kymation Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Changing the colors should be done by creating a new theme using Themeroller and installing it, not by hacking up the Redmond theme. This needs better documentation, and possible some automation. Hmmm..... Regards Jim See my profile for a list of my addons and ways to get support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burt Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I thought this cant be right, so searched more, Burt solved things but he doesn't know it. (thanks Burt) When to his site and he spoke about a thing called 960 grid????? Searched for 960 grid, found it, learnt a bit. Without finding about this I could never, if completely new, had any chance with 2.3.1 Burt thanks. Bows o:) (was going to buy a template from you but because of your teaching on your site, wont need to.) D'oh! :x 2.3.1 is different to the version I knew, and I think it needs a different forum. GOOD idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpajun Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 GOOD idea! Agreed!! My store is currently running Phoenix 1.0.3.0 I'm currently working on 1.0.7.2 and hope to get it live before 1.0.8.0 arrives (maybe 🙄 ) I used to have a list of add-ons here but I've found that with the ones that supporters of Phoenix get any other add-ons are not really neccessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4w29c Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Agreed!! Speaking as one of those newbies, I agree whole heartedly! Having a heck of a time learning the ropes... That said, the members have been VERY helpful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymatt Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Yep, trying to learn this new design. The concept seems fine but we need some kind of basic guidance to get started. What I think may work best is a visual of the grid. If we could see the grid in some type of image I think anybody who gets started on 2.3.1 will absolutely get s quicker grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥kymation Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You can use the 960 Gridder bookmarklet to overlay a grid on your page. Regards Jim See my profile for a list of my addons and ways to get support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymatt Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I thought the 960 was an osc thing. Thank you for the help, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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