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WYSIWYG News: HtmlArea Discontinued!


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WYSIWYG News: HtmlArea Discontinued!

 

This monday (02/28/05) I went to the htmlarea.com forums to ask a question on a mod I was working on, and to my suprise, the forums were closed with the following message up:

The forums are temporarily closed while we update our website. htmlarea.com will be re-launching soon with a directory of wysiwyg editors from all over the web. Please try back in a few days.

Opensource projects are always tentative and may close at any time, but I was shocked the forums were down. They have a good community actively developing mods and such. So I shot interactivetools.com an email:

Interactive Tools - When will htmlarea forums be up again? I'm working on a slight mod for it and need to post some questions for help on the forum. Let me know. Thanks. - Adam

And they wrote me back with this to say:

Hi Adam,

 

Thanks for your email! :)

 

While htmlArea has always been an open source script, we've decided to

discontinue it so the forums are going to remain closed.

 

The good news is we'll be relaunching htmlarea.com in the near future, and

this time as a directory of WYSIWYG editors. So instead of being able to

choose from just htmlArea, you'll have an entire directory of WYSIWYG

editors to choose from.

 

If you want you can join the interactivetools.com newsletter and we can let

you know when htmlarea.com has been relaunched as a WYSIWYG directory, or

feel free to visit htmlarea.com occasionally and see the changes as they

unfold.

 

In the mean time, if you have any other questions please feel free to let me

know! :)

 

Best Regards,

Cliff Stefanuk - Product Specialist

interactivetools.com, inc.

Wow. Not only are the forums down but their going to remain closed. And add to that, htmlarea is discontinued! Ouch. If anyone had the itch to start a spike development of htmlarea and a community for modding. Now is the time. Well, I wrote them back:

Cliff,

 

Discontinue HtmlArea! Ouch. Give us some warning.

 

How and when do you plan to implement the new forums/site? Will it be days, weeks, months? Will you have a forum on there for htmlarea? What is your plan? You guys had a pretty good community going there. Put some ad words up and down the side and I'm sure you could at least pay for hosting the forums.

 

I certainly have benefitted from htmlarea and although others have said there are more advanced editors out there, I have yet to find any wysisyg editor with as good an image manager or file manager as those available as mods for htmlarea3. It was good to have a place to have a community available to contribute to and ask questions of.

 

Please give me a summary of what's going on. Thanks.

 

Adam

Man, I'm a bit bummed out. The image and file manager mods for htmlarea are so awesome. Anyone got any clue where we can start a htmlarea and htmlarea mod development community?

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We are deciding on what HTML editor contrib to use right now.  Do you have any opinions based on the current issues with HTMLArea v3?

 

Should we stick with HTMLArea or go for a different contrib?  Any suggestions?

 

There are two options ... 1) use HTMLArea as is. It's still pretty good, even if unsupported. 2) use the HTMLArea fork development Xinha located here:

 

http://xinha.gogo.co.nz/cgi-bin/trac.cgi

 

Since the makers of HTMLArea are discontinuing the app, some fellow coders are continueing developing it under the name Xinha (stands for Xinha Is Not HtmlArea). It's the same app (even the operating javascript files are named "hmltarea.js"). The only difference is that Xinha will be supported by forums and coders. The good news of this is, all the mods and plugins built for HmtlArea (including the cool Image and File managers and Extenede File Managers) will work with Xinha.

 

I'm going to be keeping track of the htmlarea community and all the forks and mods that come from that community at my new site HtmlAreaForum.com here ....

 

http://www.htmlareaforum.com

 

... and which I'll be setting up in the next week.

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We are deciding on what HTML editor contrib to use right now.  Do you have any opinions based on the current issues with HTMLArea v3?

 

Should we stick with HTMLArea or go for a different contrib?  Any suggestions?

Of course there are several other open source wysiwyg browser based editors out there, but i don't know of any that have as good as image and file managers.

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Hi,Hi,

 

For those who like htmlarea....good news..its not dead and burried yet....you can find more information here Htmlarea 3.0 B)

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I tried SPAW editor, but it didn't work well with portable sites since we use a staging site and a production site. I didn't want to be worrying about hard coded links to SPAW, and I couldn't put SPAW in an alias... So I just gave up on it. I am sure I could make it work if I wanted to, but HTMLArea does everything I want, plus the contrib version works with both IE and FireFox. The version of SPAW in the contrib only works with IE, unless I was doing something wrong. Once again, just being too lazy to get the latest SPAW and try to figure out how the previous version was integrated, etc..

 

Thanks for the feedback though, we all have our favorites and for different reason.

 

Kevin

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I had a quick look at the beta version of SPAW, which supports gecko, and it does definately deserve further investigation, primarily because it is totally php encapsulated. It would be preferable if HTMLArea could be instantiated similiar to FCKEditor and SPAW, but at the moment, my preference for HTMLArea is due to the ImageManager plugin --- trying to port this to SPAW would be of interest. FCKEditor seems to be the most vunerable of the lot e.g., hence, IMO, why SPAW and its php encapsulation makes it the most attractive package of the three (I haven't looked at Xinha yet).

"Any fool can know. The point is to understand." -- Albert Einstein

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I had a quick look at the beta version of SPAW, which supports gecko, and it does definately deserve further investigation, primarily because it is totally php encapsulated. It would be preferable if HTMLArea could be instantiated similiar to FCKEditor and SPAW, but at the moment, my preference for HTMLArea is due to the ImageManager plugin --- trying to port this to SPAW would be of interest. FCKEditor seems to be the most vunerable of the lot e.g., hence, IMO, why SPAW and its php encapsulation makes it the most attractive package of the three (I haven't looked at Xinha yet).

 

Frankly, I get too many complaints from people that the HTMLArea Image Manager won't send an image name to the database to bother with it in its current instantiation. Its a bit too complicated in use, and definitely needs more work before it is ready for production use.

 

 

David

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Whatever wysiwyg editor that works for you. FCKeditor looks really slick. Some of the others online are really good too. For those curious, I'm setting up a site for the HtmlArea3 fan community here:

 

http://www.htmlareaforum.com/

 

I'm setting up the forum, collecting some good downloads (HtmlArea3, Image Manger, File Manager and Extended File Manager) and hopefully launch the site in the next few days. Check it out. Thanks.

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