Does osCommerce work "out of the box"? in General Support Posted October 29 24 minutes ago, waynec444 said: To see what I am wanting to do, please visit thedirectoryofkaraokesongs.com/index.php. You will see that it is very simple and basic. IF this is doable, I am about ready to ditch OC. Will give them a LITTLE more time but I doubt very much they will be able to fix their issues. Thanks for being patient and kind, something sometimes lacking you know where. I did go through the demo as suggested. I don't know Opencart in-depth, though I do know Dan (owner of opencart), we had some conversations in the past. I can tell you that it has differences opencart isn't phoenix and phoenix isn't opencart, so both of them will have things you don't want and both of them will have things missing that you do want. Phoenix only takes a minute to download and install, so best is to do that and try it. If there is then something you do want, but is missing...then ask for more advice on the best solution and I am certain that Phoenix users will give you their view. I think you already tried a test order on the demo install - how did you like it ?