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  1. All points noted, why would some carts only work on dedicated hosting ? I have a a very bare bones hosting and it runs several wordpress websites and two forums plus oscommerce, granted none get much use. I'm not sure what classes as an addon and what as a standard feature. I look forward to version 3 unless I find something better. The addon you link to is for a previous version of oscommerce, this is the other great drawback, being so basic and each version incompatible with the previous every time a new version comes out it is start from scratch and hope addon's are around to replace your old ones
  2. to clarify my second paragraph: the project is being run by coders for coders, with little consideration for a non technical end user that has no interest in how the code was written but wants an easy to use and well supported platform. What are the other projects that have branched from oscommerce ? They might be worth a look if they have evolved from not being able to cooperate effectively (assuming they are open source)
  3. So basically the whole project is solely maintained by Harold ? well that will explain why things are in peices, if you can't work as a team then your obviously having to all write bits on your own crossing purposes. Your missing my point, I am aware there are different ways of coding things, but what your saying is that the end user is missing out so that everyone can have their own way. This sounds like a very stable setup - not, and one that inspires no confidence from an end user like me. Sure you would stop support for your addon if the same functionality was added as standard, if it does exactly the same thing why make another. Again I can go back to my example of KiCAD, mods and subfunctions are discussed on their mailing list and sometimes soneone will volunteer to look at a small part of the programs function and improve it, others will offer suggestions, they will reach an agreement and the program will be improved, overseen by a small group of people (3 I think with 1 main man) that keep a handle on the whole project and that public releases are going out in a functional state. If one person develops oscommerce and other make small bits of code that they can't add to the main project because only one person controls it. That will give you very very sow progress. I thought this was a community project.
  4. I can see that but wasn't someone just reminding me of what "open source" means ? and maybe these competitors have sprung up because they wanted to do something better ? (no disrespect meant). If oscommerce was the dogs privates in the open source esommerce world there would be no room for competition, as it is it is very hard to manage as we are finding in this discussion.
  5. price breaks are important for some markets, I sell electronics components (I'm planning full projects later) and my competition is very large wholesalers who I buy from. They offer prices breaks and therefore as it is I have to make a choice, overprice my parts in case someone only wants one or I end with an order that makes me pennies, that excludes people wanting to buy quantities, or I make my stuff cheap hoping people buy more and if they don't I could be making up a package with a profit of 0.05 GBP. Larger items will not suffer this problem and goods people don't usually buy many of but at the moment on ebay I sell in lots of 5-50, ebay allows me to offer price breaks.
  6. new core ? are you saying every .1 of a version is a new core (and that's why addon's are incompatible between versions ?), see there is your problem for a start, why do you need to keep rewriting the core ? I assume that this means that upgrading from one version to another is not possible, a grand heritage indeed and a lot of pain. Why should there be any arguments over addon's ? if each group take an addon each (that should become part of the main project by default) they can discuss it, come to an agreement and make the most efficient solution, I mean cmon are you telling me that there are so many ways of having a price break for the end user that we need a choice ????? and what about the daily self update of currencies, that has no user interaction at all, don't tell me that can be a controversy over a function no one will ever interact with. My point remains, there are so many so called ad on's that are so basic that they should be part of the main code, no arguing about what they look like, it's loke arguing over if a chair should have 4 legs or not. Maybe it is time for a rewrite if oscommerce if it is indeed meant for the masses, but then that could be a bit rich coming from me as I can't even code other than a few html tags (that are mandatory to have any for of fomatting over product listings.....) so I have no idea of what I'm suggesting.
  7. @@burt ok understood, yes it's free in that sense, so basically oscommerce is an incomplete project that is not really making progress because everyone is doing things their way and all that is made available is a basic shop. I first encountered oscommerce about 4 years ago, I can't really see that anything has changed since then. @@14steve14 where does the line come between "with addons included" and "a decently functional system that does not need the other half of reasonable functionality added manually" making every "variant" unique and posing one hell of a problem in sorting problems out. I use another open source program: KiCAD, it has a strong development and when people have threatened to go their own way and make a variant this has been objected to and a middle ground has been found for what is wanted to keep all happy. As a result there is one package only, with a strong support and development network and they stick to specific standards so they are all on the same page, the program has come on leaps and bounds, when problems arise the cause of fault is easily pinpointed as everyone is talking about the same peice of code.
  8. Maybe price breaks are not popular because the existing plugin's are complicated to install and people just go to another package if they want price breaks. I don't want to be funny but it looks like oscommerce is not free/open source or whatever it is called. it works on a similar scheme to many dating websites: free to sign up, pay to use. I don't want to sound rube and appreciate everyone's efforts but it looks like for a novice you get a basic shop that is just workable and to do anything with it you have to pay for professional help. Again no offence intended, this is after all free software so I'm grateful for anything I get but I do not take to being mislead, I have already spent many hours trying to configure things and I'm not after a very complicated setup so soon between my time and what I may have to spend on someone else doing it for me I could have bought another software and done the job with no headache. Perhaps this is why oscommerce is not being taken seriously, I mean for the only decent free standalone shop software around I don't exactly see it used much. I'd happily look at the option of putting a bit of money into a pot to pay someone to further develop the software to where it seems many of us what it. I am sure that putting in price breaks is not that difficult but it is even harder to edit all the files that need editing to add it later as a so called plugin. with every file modded the risk of it going wrong increases.
  9. If price breaks were added it would make life a lot easier for many people I think.
  10. my comments all relate to the arena of free stuff (on a par with oscommerce) so yes oscommerce is a pretty good competitor but as you say there should be more features built in as standard. Granted some knowledge is needed but we are having to do a lot of work using what can be unverified sources to get some of the more basic functions.
  11. yep in part but still, it is clear that one has to be comfortable if not versed in coding to make anything useful of oscommerce, it would help if the whole project was more user friendly on the back end - think wordpress, I don't know if it is possible. In my searches for a wordpress plug in I found mostly rubbish and even one that crashed my site so decided to use oscommerce as it is standaline and really the only well featured shop application.
  12. ok thank you, yes I've not noticed the 50% small grey text telling me the version number
  13. The one with line break problems was another one. Why can't addons be catalogued but version then ? why the endless list of "historical" addons and changes. This http://addons.oscommerce.com/info/7916 does not have any version information. Following the readme file to just replace the product page if I've not otherwise changed it results in a non working shop (except for the logo showing it becomes a blank page). The other file that is totally new, there is no explanation as to what to do with it. http://addons.oscommerce.com/info/8040 can anyone confirm that this is the complete version and that I don't need to "install" an older one first ?
  14. I will try posting links to all the ones i know to be out of date/faulty, first one above
  15. http://addons.oscommerce.com/info/8213 no longer works, the column files no longer exist I tried creating them but it did nothing.
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