I didn’t see that post from Vadym. I saw another one a while back and am now not sure if it was from him or second-hand. So, I was wrong in my understanding of that 2.x migration to osCv4, and you are right. Though having read this, I am now even more skeptical of the osCv4 rollout.
I assume that your “Doom & Gloom” comment was directed at me. If so, I disagree with your perception of such comments. I’m a realist, ..just being realistic!
1. The last official release of this software was over 4 years old and is not compatible with today’s PHP version.
2. The software is not made to be upgradeable to newer osC versions and is not easily upgradeable to new PHP versions.
3. osC is a bare-bones set of core files that is completely dependent on addons for basic features to make it a working shop.
4. The addons site is in disarray with old and poorly coded addons most of which have not been updated in years and the majority of which are written by amateur programmers.
5. The main source of osCommerce technical support we now have is,… (drum-roll…….) => Jack! And I am very grateful for his continued commitment, availability, and help.
Most of the other senior developers/techs have either jumped ship or are not wasting any more of their time on osC support. Good for them! I am grateful to them for all the time, effort, and expertise they donated to help the rest of us.
6. osC went belly-up a decade ago and there are currently around 30 people following Vadym’s “new osCommerce V4” thread who are interested in the V4 release. Numbers don’t lie! https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=oscommerce
7. You basically have to be a programmer or know a programmer to set-up and manage an osC site. This software is not for the non-technical shop owner, which is pretty much most everyone.
8. The new osC ownership missed their own deadline for the release of the new version, which was supposed to be available this past summer of 2021.
9. That last D-bag that pretended to manage osCommerce for years, basically wiped his ass with it. And, the new osC ownership have been MIA for months.
Considering all of these issues, how can you tell newbies and existing shop owners (whose old osC software is failing them), that they should stick with osCommerce? Yeah!, I tell them the truth, ..that they should go find another cart software. Why? Because it’s immoral and unethical not to. That’s not “Doom & Gloom,” ..that’s being real about the software’s current state and any future projection (seeing how the new ownership has thus far handled the osCv4 rollout). That’s me saving them a ton of time, money, and aggravation.
I do believe that Vadym and his team will eventually release osCv4, which will breathe some life into this software. Though again, being realistic, ..it is highly unlikely that this new version will somehow propel osCommerce to compete with some of the big names of eComm software in the industry (or even some of the smaller ones).
Ashley is just having some fun and trying to help those that still think osC is a viable eComm solution. Though your comment only proves my point. A non-technical person cannot do what Ashley (as well as Ruden) did, and that’s just patching an old software to the latest PHP version (plus a few minor tweaks). There is still the process of loading all the necessary addons, bringing them up to date, and testing them. This doesn’t even include customization.
That’s like saying, “look how easy it is for that ballerina to dance on stage,” ...but try explaining that to the cops arresting you for dancing in a pink tutu on Time Square.
So, that’s fairly easy stuff for someone who knows osCommerce directory, file, and code structure and is at least semi-technical (though extremely time consuming!). Not so much for the non-technical newbie or a shop owner who is still running an MS2.2 candle shop on PHP5.3.