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Some reason we should go forward. @@GLWalker and @@burt started BS community adaptations, but would be great some structure work.

GLWalker started a github repo but need some update converge to the latest BS and add to common platform. By my opinion the admin site should be table based with BS.

 

Starting point could be http://wenzhixin.net.cn/p/bootstrap-table/docs/examples.html

 

Any thoughts?

 

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my personal thoughts are that this may be a step too far at the moment - BS is great on the customer facing side andit pleases google etc.

 

My problem is that a lot of the functionality that many shop owners like me need to run their shops is mainly on the admin side - by incorporating various mods (some of them quite old) that would simply not work, or be too difficult to convert to a BS admin

Now running on a fully modded, Mobile Friendly 2.3.4 Store with the Excellent MTS installed - See my profile for the mods installed ..... So much thanks for all the help given along the way by forum members.

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I haven't seen GLWalker here in the forum for quite a while now. He's probably busy with some other projects.

But he sure did some great progress in the admin area.

I still have my bootstrap admin files somewhere laying around but they are nothing compare to Walkers great work.

 

@@Mort-lemur

 

Having a bootstrapped admin is not much different then having a bootstrapped front end.

Just need to do some cosmetic stuff on the visual part. Technically shouldn't be any different.

I can imagine though that Order Editor will be quite a challenge to bootstrap so are few other add-ons but not impossible.

Master Products or other bigger add-ons where also challenging to convert to BS but it has been done.

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isn't the bigger challenge to modularize the admin, so that also here contribution have less of an impact on the core code ?

Bootstrap as such, is only cosmetic (and responsive of course)

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I do not use the responsive bootstrap version since i coded my responsive version earlier, but i have bought every 28d of code package to support burts effort and keep this forum alive (albeit more like on life support).

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As a shop owner, why would I want to see the admin changed to work on my mobile device. If I need to alter anything in my admin, would I not do it at my shop, where all the paperwork is, where the stock is and where I can see what I am doing. I would have a computer at my shop, as thats where I have always done this type of work.

 

Lets not start complicating things more than they need to be. Lets get the front end sorted first, then worry about improving the back end. Its taken years for oscommerce to move forward, lets at least let it walk before it runs.

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As a shop owner I would like to use modern interface where I can see my administration in warehouse, in the office or at supplier to manage my work. I dont like sitting my office and waiting for something.

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While I agree that for *most* store owners, any store administration would probably be done in the office on a 'regular' computer. But, I remember @@wHiTeHaT offering the scenario of someone like a real estate agent, or antiques dealer, that wants to upload a photo of a house or item, and/or update a listing in their store while 'in the field'.

 

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I think I agree with Steve @@14steve14 on this.  It might be nice to have a pretty back end but I don't think it's a priority....I've often wondered why there wasn't separate releases for both the front and back ends....why hold up the customer interface and the progress on that side of things for something they would never see or care about? 

 

Dan (thinking out of the box) :huh:

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I can not imagine that the Devs would hold back a release because the admin area is not bootstrapped yet or unfinished.

There will be sure a time where the admin area will be responsive or better looking. As I recall 2.4 suppose to get a nice bootstrapped admin but that was talk from few months back and not solid yet.

 

I am not a fiend to retro look or classic stuff by all means but something that looks almost exact same as 10 years ago needs to be changed sooner or later. If not for the sake of usability but for the sake of anyone's eyes. Someone said recently that the products attributes page reminds him of the DOS ages back in the day and you know he's right it kinda does...

 

Anyway...we could talk and argue all day and night here but finally it is in the hands of the Dev's to decide when the time is to this or that.

Or those who want to change the admin area by them self they can do that.

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Bootsrap file upload a little bit ugly.

Nice file upload example: http://jasny.github.io/bootstrap/javascript/#fileinput-examples

 

or a spartan code here http://codepen.io/bi11johnston/pen/bsGDf/

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Admin site not able to use scrit or css modules. Not long should be figured out.

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TODO:

 

header.php - finished

application menu - finished

column_left.php - kick off

 

Admin templateModules - figured out (adapted to: template_top.php and template_bottom.php, CSS and scripts)

 

login.php - finished

index.php - finished

 

box class adapted to html5 - finished

 

dashboard modules - finished

manufacturers.php - finished

modules.php - finished

modules_content.php - finished

configuration.php - finished

 

bm_card_acceptance.php - finished but there is a question:  where load from jQuery ui?

 

footer navigation - finished (default is fix and hide on small devices)

administrators.php - finished

store_logo.php - finished

 

pull in @GLWalker alert_box and message_stack classes and CSS into the repo

 

 

Next:

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hi gergely,

 

I was wondering if you will change the fields displayed in the list of modules so that isEnabled is visible, next to the sortorder ?

I was just installing 234BS, and playing around in the admin side and was wondering why there is not visible indication if something is active or not.

I did note that the action recorder for one does not have an enabled flag, but other all seem to have a disable/enable capability

 

your thought ?

KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON

I do not use the responsive bootstrap version since i coded my responsive version earlier, but i have bought every 28d of code package to support burts effort and keep this forum alive (albeit more like on life support).

So if you are still here ? What are you waiting for ?!

 

Find the most frequent unique errors to fix:

grep "PHP" php_error_log.txt | sed "s/^.* PHP/PHP/g" |grep "line" |sort | uniq -c | sort -r > counterrors.txt

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hi gergely

 

like the idea for bs admin side

i already made a start with the idea placing the column_left in de header to obtain more space in the content area

 

where did you place the files you have changed ?

 

do you have a picture of the changes ?

 

greet

eric

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hi gergely,

 

I was wondering if you will change the fields displayed in the list of modules so that isEnabled is visible, next to the sortorder ?

I was just installing 234BS, and playing around in the admin side and was wondering why there is not visible indication if something is active or not.

I did note that the action recorder for one does not have an enabled flag, but other all seem to have a disable/enable capability

 

your thought ?

Hi Carine,

 

good intention but first BS is in one track. Later coming soon.

 

 

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hi gergely

 

like the idea for bs admin side

i already made a start with the idea placing the column_left in de header to obtain more space in the content area

 

where did you place the files you have changed ?

 

do you have a picture of the changes ?

 

greet

eric

 

Hi Eric,

 

it will be a surprise. :D both you are the firsts who are intrested in. I am working on minimal BS admin with less css so you can adapt self user css later. I cant post here images but later I will give you links.

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Notice to osCommerce Old Boy's Club:

Busines is online but never forget that the oscommerce cart choice is of the shop owner and not the customer.

 

When one new young shop owner had to put into an ugly styled admin site it wont be choosen if new mordern free administrations are found around the world..
 

Why do osCommerce? Not for BS. For our business.

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Notice to osCommerce Old Boy's Club:

 

Busines is online but never forget that the oscommerce cart choice is of the shop owner and not the customer.

 

The only thing you forgot to mention is that is also not what the developer wants you to have, its what the store owner wants from the developer.

 

Does this also mean that finally oscommerce is going to start offering what shop owners want. I have spoken to Gary about this and it looks like things are moving to what todays store owners want. It can only be good for oscommerce.

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@@14steve14 Steve what am I? :D

 

 

The BIG questions of the day: what would be on categories page?

 

- jQuery UI with image sortable and UI datepicker or BS datepicker and bootsrap sortable? or mix? (w00t)

http://jquery-ui-bootstrap.github.io/jquery-ui-bootstrap/

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My admin BS is out there on GitHub. Feel free to pull it and deconstruct/reconstruct as needed. I laid it out in a way that still resembles the existing admin, just bootstrapped.  Nothing fancy, as the bells and whistles can be added later and as needed. 

 

I have not had the time to complete the full admin, but have laid out what I think are the most difficult pages to remake, a majority of what is left are very similar in existing markup, therefore would be easy to run with once one started.

 

Somewhere along the way of working on the admin my focus shifted back to the catalog side. I'll get back around the admin at some point, but its not critical as it is more than a point of reference and ideas of how to create the layout. As we have seen what is ultimately coming for osCommerce will be a more extendable admin area. Many files will change, while some will not.

 

Perhaps what I have started will inspire a new look, or perhaps it will go beyond :)  Anyway it goes, the code it out there to be used as needed or as an example of what not is needed!

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My admin BS is out there on GitHub. Feel free to pull it and deconstruct/reconstruct as needed. I laid it out in a way that still resembles the existing admin, just bootstrapped.  Nothing fancy, as the bells and whistles can be added later and as needed. 

 

I have not had the time to complete the full admin, but have laid out what I think are the most difficult pages to remake, a majority of what is left are very similar in existing markup, therefore would be easy to run with once one started.

 

Somewhere along the way of working on the admin my focus shifted back to the catalog side. I'll get back around the admin at some point, but its not critical as it is more than a point of reference and ideas of how to create the layout. As we have seen what is ultimately coming for osCommerce will be a more extendable admin area. Many files will change, while some will not.

 

Perhaps what I have started will inspire a new look, or perhaps it will go beyond :)  Anyway it goes, the code it out there to be used as needed or as an example of what not is needed!

Hi @@GLWalker

 

I am working on BS admin by your way. ASAP I will post here the result. Some pages and some code opimatization are left.

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I have finished all pages except attributes, orders and customers. These pages are be conflict with estimated changes.

I have discovered the followings:

 

- need more gliphicons

- need more table features on smart displays so we should use table extends for BS

 

I pushed up my changes on github repo so going closer to solutions. You could see my work.

https://github.com/tgely/oscommerce2-1/tree/BS_admin

 

The next would be the gliphicons for buttons and for others. I will have less time at the next period to june.

 

 

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