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a question / accusation for Harald Ponce de Leon : osCommerce is Dead ?


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- No updates concrete

- No continuation in the news (osc 2.4??? where is????)

- The competitor (have you seen prestashop 1.6 ? ) Advance with exceptional services

- No responsive

- No modules integration ebay, amazon or other marketplaces

- Lack of management export / import file

- Lack MultiShop native

- Lack of system APIs

- Useful functions to the vendors, statistics, research faster

- Actions for Massive manage products , orders and customers?

is ... much more ...

 

Really osc 2.4 may be defined as a real step forward ?

Or is it just a way to " survive "???

We sincerely define a glorious dead project?

 

A proposal ... why not open for users to develop to increase quickly the structure?

Create a roadmap for 6 months ... a few dozen developers ... everything could be reborn ...

If you continue in this way will only be a slow and inexorable death.

 

A user oscommerce for 12 years.

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is not a question the fork ... I have produced my own version, tens of contrib modules for ebay, amazon ... (http://responsivenuovo.pccasa.it) the problem is:

 

- Today oscommerce is no longer aired on success

- When customers offer oscommerce ... the first question is: Is not it old??

 

The real problem is that the project grow master gets its name ... if the original project is still ... the "name oscommerce" loses ground ...

 

Prestashop (old fork of oscommerce) is not unattainable ... just a desire to create a real group, responsible and with the desire to revive a great idea.

 

Mine is not an accusation but a provocation ... possible ... it's all over??

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Man oh man another know it all

 

- No updates concrete = that many updates this year that there were complaints

 

- No continuation in the news (osc 2.4??? where is???? = available for download if you wish to help

 

- The competitor (have you seen prestashop 1.6 ? ) Advance with exceptional services = osc is oscommerce an individual project always has been actually do not see competition

 

 

- No responsive= If you ever got round to reading the forum that you condemn it has been an actual topic for many months KicK in the ass away from completion

 

- No modules integration ebay, amazon or other marketplaces = commercial always has been available a lot of shop owners want to earn on the internet without spending strange that redone my bricks and mortar every 5 years simply needed a coat of paint ( why do you think an online shop is different )

or do you want everything your success etc for nothing?

 

- Lack of management export / import file= last 15 years easy populate and various options have existed maybe you need a bit of help with searching on google?

 

 

- Lack MultiShop native= oh now not only one free shop you want multi shops go to a shopping mall

 

- Lack of system APIs = been moving modular now for x 4 years you really do have to learn to read not just write

 

- Useful functions to the vendors, statistics, research faster = plenty available maybe I should offer you a free install of maybe 50+ options

 

- Actions for Massive manage products , orders and customers? = getting FED UP NOW WITH ALL YOUR WANTS AND ..

 

is ... much more ...

 

GO AWAY TO OPEN CART AND LEAVE US ALONE (w00t) :D :devil:

 

man some people just P**** me off

 

Really osc 2.4 may be defined as a real step forward ?

Or is it just a way to " survive "???

We sincerely define a glorious dead project?

 

A proposal ... why not open for users to develop to increase quickly the structure?

Create a roadmap for 6 months ... a few dozen developers ... everything could be reborn ...

If you continue in this way will only be a slow and inexorable death.

 

A user oscommerce for 12 years.

 

YES AND THE CROWNING GLORY IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE X 4 ACTIVE POSTS IN 8 X YEARS

 

would be ashamed of myself to just always take and not give food for thought maybe

 

have a nice day :dash: :thumbsdown:

 

Regards

Joli

To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.

 

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I do not know anything ... sure you know?

I just want to "turn on" a provocation ...

I respond to degrees ...

 

- No updates concrete = That many updates this year That there were complaints

Update = NEW FEATURES ... only solution to OLD PROBLEMS

 

- No continuation in the news (osc 2.4?? Where is?? = Available for download if you wish to help

 

Calling it added 2.4 Bootstrap solved OLD PROBLEMS ... all these new??

 

- The competitors (have you seen prestashop 1.6?) Advance with exceptional services = oscommerce osc is always an individual Project Has Been actually do not see competition

 

NOTABLE ... but it was 15 years ago today ... an individual project does not survive ... it is the law of the web.

 

- No responsive = If you ever got round to reading the forum That You condemn it Has Been an actual topic for many months kick in the ass away from completion

 

Both BLA BLA BLA ... but nothing in the project ORIGINAL

 

- No integration modules ebay, amazon or other commercial marketplaces = always available Has Been a lot of shop owners want to earn on the internet without spending strange That my bricks and mortar redone every 5 years simply needed a coat of paint (why do you think an online shop is different)

or do you want everything your success etc for nothing?

 

(Anticipo. .. I gain by selling amazon and ebay integration for oscommerce)

 

Today a web structure must have minimum basic functions ... integration in the marketplace or else for free is the minimum wage.

 

- Lack of management import / export file = last 15 years easy populate and various options have Existed maybe you need a bit of help with searching on google?

 

Stupid joke ... maybe talk about EasyPopulate?? (which I modified to handle stock attributes) ... but it can be considered a truly user friendly system?? ... no joking matter.

 

- Lack MultiShop native = oh now not only one free shop you want to go multi shops in shopping mall

 

Too much to ask right? ... Limit ... instead of growing opportunities

 

- Lack of system APIs = x Been moving modular now for 4 years you really do have to learn to read not just write

 

You know real systems management API? (See API for amazon or ebay)

This system would allow easy integration with millions of applications.

 

- Useful functions to the vendors, statistics, research = faster plenty available maybe I should offer you a free install of maybe 50 + options

 

Manage stores with hundreds of orders per day, need to have serious dynamic system for data comparison ... I do not have small query graph attached to cute but meaningless

 

- Actions for Massive manage products, orders and customers? = Getting FED UP WITH ALL YOUR WANTS AND NOW ..

 

Bha!?!?!?!?!?!

There are no desires ... I know that oscommerce not be Santa Claus.

 

YES AND THE GLORY CROWNING IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE POSTS IN ACTIVE X 4 X 8 YEARS

would be ashamed of myself to always just take and not give food for thought maybe

have a nice day: dash :: thumbsdown:

 

I would be ashamed to offend my neighbor.

To start not to give ideas ... it's never too late ... or maybe you decide what is right??

 

I repeat ... I am waiting for an answer from HARALD his point of view is the real situation of the facts.

forgive my english.

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We are very much alive.

 

v2.3 is indeed an old release as it is a stable and simple/core solution to build on. It is not "dead" as new or updated add-ons are uploaded on a daily basis with the community providing over 7,000 add-ons free to use. This release has compatibility as a priority to run with the add-ons and on as many server configurations as possible (it is still PHP 4 compatible).

 

v2.4 is being planned as a "modern" v2.3 release with new features and ideas learned from the development on v3.0. This release will work as a drop in replacement on existing v2.3 databases and is being pushed out due to the long development on v3.0. Due to the changes required to make it "modern", none of the existing add-ons will work with it and will need to be updated by the community.

 

v3.0 is our future and will require the latest PHP version to run on release - currently, in development, the minimum requirement is PHP 5.4 and may jump to 5.5 or 5.6 depending on release. This release answers everyones wishes for a modern framework, templates (with no PHP code in template files), modularity (no source code changes needed to install add-ons, in fact it is forbidden to change the core source code and a custom directory is provided where core source code can be overridden), database independency (MySQL and PostgreSQL supported out of the box; queries are abstracted from the core source code so stored procedures can also be used), and, and, and, ..

 

v3.0 is not one solution but a platform built for multiple websites (not multishops but why not, that will be possible to). Our current website is running on the current development version - our plan is to run the next Add-Ons (Marketplace) and Live Shops sites on it. My wishful thinking is to replace the forum with a custom solution running on our new platform but that is way way in the future.

 

All of our websites on v3.0 will also be open source and will be on github when they go live (the main website is already on github). The license to v3.0 has changed to the BSD/MIT license, and ofcourse our websites will also be released under the BSD/MIT license.

 

Who else does that?

 

Who else answers such questions on a Friday night?

 

We are very much alive, but OSCOM v2.3 may not be for you today (for the elite developer). It is perfectly fine for store owners and a great reference to learn PHP and HTML.

:heart:, osCommerce

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I understand what rainton is trying to achieve here. At least he reached part of his goal and got an answer from @@Harald Ponce de Leon, which is more than i ever achieved.

 

@@joli1811

No need to get upset, there have been many arguments and comparison to other e-commerce software and to be honest the rivals "look" not bad at all and they are "also" developing for the future and building in a lot features that the end-user don't have to "install by them self". I personally spend probably less then 10 hours total with software like open cart, prestashop, magento and so on....and one thing they all have in common is their complexity of code. i had trouble to get in to it....but it could be the lack of my skills or time spend with it.

We have a saying in German that goes like this "Konkurrenz belebt das Geschäft" means something like "Competition is good for business" without the competition we wouldn't probably put that much effort in upgrading/developing osC.

 

at the end, everyone can descide by him self if he wants to use osC or any other platform out there. I stay with osC because i like this community and that i have to put some effort in it so that i can get a store that i think is good for what i want ot use.

 

@@rainton

Prestashop 1.6 is not out yet! still 2 days to go and even then you can't be sure if it runs smooth after its release.

 

P.S. probably a lot typing mistakes inside my text, had no time for a double check, sorry.

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I do not know anything ... sure you know?

I just want to "turn on" a provocation ...

I respond to degrees ...

 

- No updates concrete = That many updates this year That there were complaints

Update = NEW FEATURES ... only solution to OLD PROBLEMS

 

- No continuation in the news (osc 2.4?? Where is?? = Available for download if you wish to help

 

Calling it added 2.4 Bootstrap solved OLD PROBLEMS ... all these new??

 

- The competitors (have you seen prestashop 1.6?) Advance with exceptional services = oscommerce osc is always an individual Project Has Been actually do not see competition

 

NOTABLE ... but it was 15 years ago today ... an individual project does not survive ... it is the law of the web.

 

- No responsive = If you ever got round to reading the forum That You condemn it Has Been an actual topic for many months kick in the ass away from completion

 

Both BLA BLA BLA ... but nothing in the project ORIGINAL

 

- No integration modules ebay, amazon or other commercial marketplaces = always available Has Been a lot of shop owners want to earn on the internet without spending strange That my bricks and mortar redone every 5 years simply needed a coat of paint (why do you think an online shop is different)

or do you want everything your success etc for nothing?

 

(Anticipo. .. I gain by selling amazon and ebay integration for oscommerce)

 

Today a web structure must have minimum basic functions ... integration in the marketplace or else for free is the minimum wage.

 

- Lack of management import / export file = last 15 years easy populate and various options have Existed maybe you need a bit of help with searching on google?

 

Stupid joke ... maybe talk about EasyPopulate?? (which I modified to handle stock attributes) ... but it can be considered a truly user friendly system?? ... no joking matter.

 

- Lack MultiShop native = oh now not only one free shop you want to go multi shops in shopping mall

 

Too much to ask right? ... Limit ... instead of growing opportunities

 

- Lack of system APIs = x Been moving modular now for 4 years you really do have to learn to read not just write

 

You know real systems management API? (See API for amazon or ebay)

This system would allow easy integration with millions of applications.

 

- Useful functions to the vendors, statistics, research = faster plenty available maybe I should offer you a free install of maybe 50 + options

 

Manage stores with hundreds of orders per day, need to have serious dynamic system for data comparison ... I do not have small query graph attached to cute but meaningless

 

- Actions for Massive manage products, orders and customers? = Getting FED UP WITH ALL YOUR WANTS AND NOW ..

 

Bha!?!?!?!?!?!

There are no desires ... I know that oscommerce not be Santa Claus.

 

YES AND THE GLORY CROWNING IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE POSTS IN ACTIVE X 4 X 8 YEARS

would be ashamed of myself to always just take and not give food for thought maybe

have a nice day: dash :: thumbsdown:

 

I would be ashamed to offend my neighbor.

To start not to give ideas ... it's never too late ... or maybe you decide what is right??

 

I repeat ... I am waiting for an answer from HARALD his point of view is the real situation of the facts.

forgive my english.

 

Nothing wrong with your English it s actually very good just your Bad attitudeleaves a bit to be desired

 

I personally would love an free ebay /amazon intregation for osc let me know if you would like to help most of the stuff we could do ourselves but part of the code would be beyond my capabilities think maybe £200 would cover it for a php guru and then we could release to the community so 50% 50% would be fair think maybe 3 -4 days coding so cheap at the price

 

You know how many rules to develop an apt for amazon or ebay easy if you can get past the rules but sadly not so simple think one of the osc partners has already done probably worth a few 100.000 in year so yes lets also do .

 

Provocation and negative well maybe a fine distinction I see your post as negative without much thought or research as to what is actually happening on oscommerce

 

I think that any one who has followed or has a real interest in the oscommerce project knows there were a few hard years ( mainly security issues)

 

that have been resolved and that the project has a new lease of life and especially the last year has caught and surpassed what may be called competitors

 

I believe I heard that and team are working on a new recipe / cookbook so not sure if you will get the answer you hope for as the team are all fighting with Burt I know he likes Sausages Harald likes Bratwurst, Jan Zonjee likes Rookworst and Gergely likes Gyulai

 

so guess considering how many different types of sausages and then you think if you want the fried egg on top or not ( Burt likes his with egg !!)

 

Pleasing everybody all the time is and will be never possibile

 

Just seen Harald beat me to it must have finished the new recipe

 

Regards

Joli

To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.

 

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@@Tsimi

I understand what rainton is trying to achieve here. At least he reached part of his goal and got an answer from @Harald Ponce de Leon, which is more than i ever achieved.

 

you have understood my idea

 

@@joli1811

I work and gain thanks to oscommerce

I have hundreds of customers who use my version, I created (with pain and satisfaction) many functions, but most offer assistance to improve their business.

It is not enough to have the best electronic cart, but need to know how to attack the market ... I offer my professionalism.

The provocations, unleashed wars ... but also create great ideas, positive or negative depends on us.

 

@@Harald Ponce de Leon

 

Honor to have received a reply

(Print and framed the post: B) )

 

My challenge is actually a big concern ... comes from my research that "photographs" well the state of affairs:

https://www.google.it/trends/explore#q=oscommerce%2C%20magento%2C%20prestashop%2C%20opencart%2C%20virtuemart&cmpt=q

 

I hold so much in oscommerce, has revived the fortunes of my company, thanks to oscommerce I dealt with the crisis, create jobs, learned to program, and built dreams realized ideas ... so take my words as "start" or "continuation "to be" born again "THE BIGGEST PROJECT OF ELECTRONIC SHOPPING THAT MADE HISTORY eCommerce

 

Thanks for all

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https://www.google.it/trends/explore#q=oscommerce%2C%20magento%2C%20prestashop%2C%20opencart%2C%20virtuemart&cmpt=q

 

It's impossible to fight again prestashop or magento.This company receive a million of dollar (capital risk) to develop the solution or to develop a good communication. Also to push their solution, it destroyed Osc. They win on that because the 2.2 osc has not developped in the time and stay always the same since many year).

 

This community is free for add on and share the knowledge and experience with a good humor.

 

For prestashop by example, it not the same, because all the add-on are not free and if you want to find a free add on you need to search on the web because Prestashop doesn't accept that on their market place for their rentability.

This is also the trend currently

 

I don't know where HPDL want to do with 3.0 or 2.4. Maybe a little clarification can be do and the osc philosophy in the future.


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I have produced my own version, tens of contrib modules for ebay, amazon ...

 

No modules integration ebay, amazon or other marketplaces

 

This is a provocation aimed directly at you => if people like you, who can code, do nothing to share, then osCommerce moves forward at a much slower pace...

 

So, if you wish to be provocative, at least be part of the solution, not a part of the problem.

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How come no-one asks if Magento CE is dead? They post release after release of bug fixes and that is supposed to mean it is alive. Whereas osCommerce is stable and because it does not need to post release after release of bug fixes it is accused of being dead. osCommerce works. It is a great core ecommerce engine and "if ain't broke you don't fix it". osCommerce has a roadmap. it has a future. That is all that counts.

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I have tried loads of solutions. None are as solid/reliable as OSC.

 

OSC is more work to add basic addons but want you get is a rugged solution.

 

OSC does suffer from an image problem no question.

 

In my opinion if you want something reliable and serviceable you need to be able to update the code manually. You cant do it automatically.

 

It is amazing to be able to click "install" and have a new feature but that comes at the price of reliability, at least in my experience.

 

And one final thought from me. The only limit to OSC is your imagination. The foundations are rock solid and I think that is the most important thing.

 

OSC gives you a solid cart. People need to get with the program. Either install a FREE contribution and if one does not exist, pay one of the gurus on this forum to build one and share that work back to the community. I am sure the contribution you paid to have developed is being used with contributions you paid zero for. There is no I in Team.

 

About the image problem.

 

I have an idea. Jazz up the basic CSS and use some nice photos for the categories instead of the 10 year old cartoons. That is why OSC looks old. Nothing to do with the basic functionality.

 

Updating the code is fine, but the looks needs to be changed as well so the layman sees/appreciates the updates.

 

In summary, OSC is excellent

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