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[burt]

Hi baddog - Dave. My site that has been threatened by Rhea Anthony is my personal blog - it's not even a commercial website - the blog is one where I help osc users and give hints and tips about osc. Like I do in these forums, but more in-depth usually, or more specialised than is useful for this forum. As I say, just a personal blog which, as it's about osCommerce, uses the word osCommerce quite a lot! Threatened by Rhea - nice eh?

[imaginary_friend]

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It would be great to have your profile name changed to your real name. Please e-mail me it and I'll change it for you.

Don't be silly.

He can't do that.

You banned him for life.

[aligp]

imaginary_friend, on Aug 22 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

Don't be silly.

He can't do that.

You banned him for life.

There is nothing "silly" here: it is a matter between two persons. One suggests the other reveal his real name, which I believe, for a good reason because it may help in this matter. It is up to the other person to do it or not.

Rather I think you are being silly making such a comment: how do you know he can't do it? and he hasn't been banned whatsoever. I see no reason why he would be banned. He should instead be praised for his support in the fight against the theft of osCommerce name.

BTW, you can't really ban anyone for life on a public forum. Anyone could just registera as a new member with another name.

What I said above doesn't applies if you are the person who is being asked to reveal real name. But even then there is no need to say it is silly to ask. You could just keep silent.

Ali

[aligp]

baddog, on Aug 22 2009, 07:12 PM, said:

I'm curious about why you are using the term osCommerce on your Web site if you are not using the osComemrce code.

You don't need a reason to use the word osCommerce on a website as long as you don't register it as your own!

Ali

[bkellum]

burt, on Aug 22 2009, 01:18 PM, said:

Hi baddog - Dave. My site that has been threatened by Rhea Anthony is my personal blog - it's not even a commercial website - the blog is one where I help osc users and give hints and tips about osc. Like I do in these forums, but more in-depth usually, or more specialised than is useful for this forum. As I say, just a personal blog which, as it's about osCommerce, uses the word osCommerce quite a lot! Threatened by Rhea - nice eh?

Burt's blog is very useful and very much osCommerce (in content anyway). Good stuff no matter how long you have worked with osC. NO ONE has any right to tell him not to use the word osCommerce just as much as NO ONE has the right to say if we could use the word Microsoft on our web site. I have a blog that specializes in Tips for Microsoft products. I think Microsoft would view this as a plug or free advertising rather than sue me for using the word Microsoft. I'm not implying that I AM Microsoft.

Burt's site in no way implies that HE IS osCommerce. That would be an infraction. Rather, it is just a blog ABOUT osCommerce. Again, I see it as a plug or free advertising and support of the true osCommerce "project". Oops, did I say osCommerce project in the same sentence?

[ssnb]

In my opinion, anything or any site that SUPPORTS or furthers the aims of the global OS community should be commended - that includes Burt's site. Conversely, anything or any site that undermines the OS community (this includes sham sites or organisations that purport to being OS but are really commercially focussed enterprises) should be suppressed. One would hope that the individual would be able to see the good from the bad, the true from the false, but this is not always easy to identify, so it's prudent that members of the global OS community do all we can to protect it and help others "know" the choices - which is why I say there are some positives in this current mess...

Edited by ssnb, 22 August 2009, 21:39.

[ComArge]

Hi everyone,

I read all posts and I decided to write. Nearly 5 years I am trying to contact with Herald. I was upset not to get any reply from Herald. I only contacted wit Jan Zonjee from osCommerce Team by skype. Now I am happy to see Herald to write some posts.
I believe that I can solve this problem. There is a solution to take back osCommerce name. And I want to add that if Herald checked my mails before we don't lose osCommerce name.

[i2Paq]

aligp, on Aug 22 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Rather I think you are being silly making such a comment: how do you know he can't do it? and he hasn't been banned whatsoever. I see no reason why he would be banned. He should instead be praised for his support in the fight against the theft of osCommerce name.

BTW, you can't really ban anyone for life on a public forum. Anyone could just registera as a new member with another name.

And that is what he did, register under a new name.
Whys he was banned with a previous account, maybe knowing his/her previous user-name will reveal all.

But that is another discussion and not fit for this topic: on topic please.

Edited by i2Paq, 24 August 2009, 07:22.

[i2Paq]

ComArge, on Aug 24 2009, 02:15 AM, said:

Hi everyone,

I read all posts and I decided to write. Nearly 5 years I am trying to contact with Herald. I was upset not to get any reply from Herald. I only contacted wit Jan Zonjee from osCommerce Team by skype. Now I am happy to see Herald to write some posts.
I believe that I can solve this problem. There is a solution to take back osCommerce name. And I want to add that if Herald checked my mails before we don't lose osCommerce name.

Please, read the whole topic, then you would have known that Harald has lawyers on the case.

[i2Paq]

Harald Ponce de Leon, on Aug 22 2009, 04:43 PM, said:

We believe in the same and did not accept the proposal. I was not able to comment on that earlier as our formal letter was still making its way to eCommerce Ventures Ltd.

Kind regards,

Good news, it connot be so that such people get rewarded in the end for making such a move!
Stealing and then "returning" the stolen goods should never be rewarded.

She (her company) even should be banned from using the name osCommerce in any way, for good!

Edited by i2Paq, 24 August 2009, 07:27.

[letxob]

i2Paq, on Aug 24 2009, 12:26 AM, said:

Good news, it connot be so that such people get rewarded in the end for making such a move!
Stealing and then "returning" the stolen goods should never be rewarded.

She (her company) even should be banned from using the name osCommerce in any way, for good!

Ah, the amount of energy spend on this issue, If only a fraction of that would have been spend on Osc itself, imagine where this cart would be today.

Edited by letxob, 24 August 2009, 15:06.

[i2Paq]

letxob, on Aug 24 2009, 05:00 PM, said:

Ah, the amount of energy spend on this issue, If only a fraction of that would have been spend on Osc itself, imagine where this cart would be today.

True, but this energy is not spend by coders but by bystanders who care for osCommerce.

[CRE Secure Payments]

Harald,

Chain Reaction Ecommerce, supports your effort to protect your brand. This is the REAL OSCommerce project!

Are you looking for donations to fund the legal fees, I can promote a donate link for you if you have a specific one.

[joop]

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True, but this energy is not spend by coders but by bystanders who care for osCommerce

Not completely true, the only coder of the oscommerce v3 core i know is now busy with legal matters.
And that is not a good thing, more a diversion.

And this for reasons only known to me and ....

"Do wah diddy":

Edited by joop, 24 August 2009, 19:27.

[DasMax]

I should have registered it first. Hawhawhaw!!

hello is dis commerce ventoorez?

[ncoded]

This WILL be the end of OSCommerce (in the UK at least).

ANYONE using this TM is now legally at risk.

Why would you NOT defend this? The current owners have just given away Millions of pounds of IP!?

Strange, really.

[GemRock]

ncoded, on Aug 25 2009, 11:27 AM, said:

...Why would you NOT defend this...

indeed, why YOU would not?

Ken

[i2Paq]

ncoded, on Aug 25 2009, 12:27 PM, said:

This WILL be the end of OSCommerce (in the UK at least).

ANYONE using this TM is now legally at risk.

Why would you NOT defend this? The current owners have just given away Millions of pounds of IP!?

Strange, really.

Did you actualy read this whole topic or did you just replyed because you felt like it and made a complete ass of yourself?

Edited by i2Paq, 25 August 2009, 13:08.

[Harald Ponce de Leon]

Hi All..

As this discussion progresses, the status updates we are making may be missed in this topic. A new topic has therefore been created to show the current progress being made:

http://forums.oscommerce.com/index.php?showtopic=343573

Updates will be made to the new topic and to this existing topic to foster the discussions.

Kind regards,

[GemRock]

with regard to the pinned topic Harald just posted, it seems this

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A proposal has been received by eCommerce Ventures to "resolve the issue".

should read:

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A proposal by eCommerce Ventures to "resolve the issue" has been received.

after reading fully the post?
Ken