This can be likened to a thief stealing you car, driving it around the country for twelve months and then parking it back in your driveway. Do you let them get away with it? To do so would set a precedent for other thieves to do exactly the same thing.
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#422
Posted 30 September 2009, 11:46
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Our legal counsel is still waiting for a signed agreement.
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We have today advised Beck Greener that we are not prepared to continue negotiating on the form of a signed agreement with them and their client Mr Ponce de Leon.
And what does Beck Greener say now ?
#423
Posted 30 September 2009, 17:23
Hi All..
Rhea Anthony has confirmed eCommerce Ventures Ltd. are no longer being represented by their legal counsel ip21, and that they are from now on handling the matter themselves. They judge "that it will not be possible to achieve a signed and agreed settlement between our two parties within a reasonable time scale and without incurring substantial further costs".
They have recently substantially complied with our requirements.
The decision not to pursue this legal dispute further against eCommerce Ventures Ltd. is contingent on the prompt surrender of the UK trade mark registration. Rhea Anthony has stated that this will be done by 13th October.
If this is not done by then, we will apply to the UK Registry to invalidate the registration and will seek its costs against eCommerce Ventures Ltd.
As no agreed settlement was reached, we reserve the right to include the past infringements in any later claim that is brought against eCommerce Ventures Ltd. should their actions which have been the subject to our claims recommence.
Kind regards,
Rhea Anthony has confirmed eCommerce Ventures Ltd. are no longer being represented by their legal counsel ip21, and that they are from now on handling the matter themselves. They judge "that it will not be possible to achieve a signed and agreed settlement between our two parties within a reasonable time scale and without incurring substantial further costs".
They have recently substantially complied with our requirements.
The decision not to pursue this legal dispute further against eCommerce Ventures Ltd. is contingent on the prompt surrender of the UK trade mark registration. Rhea Anthony has stated that this will be done by 13th October.
If this is not done by then, we will apply to the UK Registry to invalidate the registration and will seek its costs against eCommerce Ventures Ltd.
As no agreed settlement was reached, we reserve the right to include the past infringements in any later claim that is brought against eCommerce Ventures Ltd. should their actions which have been the subject to our claims recommence.
Kind regards,
Harald Ponce de Leon
osCommerce, Sell With Emotion
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#424
Posted 30 September 2009, 17:27
Hi All..
The form eCommerce Ventures Ltd. have to file by 13th October is TM 22:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-formsfees.htm
There are no fees involved in filing that form.
Kind regards,
The form eCommerce Ventures Ltd. have to file by 13th October is TM 22:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-formsfees.htm
There are no fees involved in filing that form.
Kind regards,
Harald Ponce de Leon
osCommerce, Sell With Emotion
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#429
Posted 07 October 2009, 13:35
Wow. Kerry Watson told me she has to write atleast one open source e-commerce article a month for E-Commerce Guide, stating "those who give me news get the news published". That she continues trolling and not contributing any value to their readers is a good sign of her struggle to produce anything meaningful as a journalist.
Kerry, keep up the poor work!
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Kerry, keep up the poor work!
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Posted 07 October 2009, 14:07
Harald Ponce de Leon, on 07 October 2009, 13:35, said:
Kerry, keep up the poor work!
You are being too kind by just calling it "poor work", that even more horrid an article than her usual waste of disk space.
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#431
Posted 07 October 2009, 14:52
Well, seems as a journalist, she should look at both sides and present an unbiased article. Seems where ever I go, she is leaning to Vger's side and project. And given it is a biased article, then it is not much better then advertising for Vger and really is just burning her bridges around here. In my opinion, it is very biased and as such really should just be posted at Vgers new site to show her support (one of the few still doing so). Maybe she holds a grudge against osC and Harald for some reason (I do have a good idea, given her eBook was never allowed to be advertised here). She claims to have an advanced degree, I am wondering if they offer ethics at that higher learning institute or if she skipped that course.
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#433
Posted 07 October 2009, 20:50
I would imagine that the prime reason for Kerry Watson's articles would be to promote her site & books, perhaps she doesn't realize that placing such ill-informed, biased and poorly constructed articles simply indicates to many the quality of her 'works', saying 'best avoided'.
But that's just power for the cause of this whole debacle, the efforts of some just results in them stabbing themselves in the back!!
But that's just power for the cause of this whole debacle, the efforts of some just results in them stabbing themselves in the back!!
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#434
Posted 07 October 2009, 21:26
i think people are getting it wrong: journalists by definition are and have to be biased, eg, no journalist is supposed to publish something, even if true, that attacks her own publication and pay master.
having said that, i guess this years bonus for the person concerned could be gone because the person has let slip in the sub title "Uneasy Settlement". Uneasy, true but for whom? obviously thats a very uneasy situation for the greedy, name snatching bunch. a miscalculated plot, advised and egged on by those copy & paste internet lawyers, ending in a completely humiliated defeat.
The osCommerce forum community is now decorating the forum (coincidentally?) for a big celebration!
there may be a small gain though for the bunch: apply for an entry in the guinness world records: the shortest life of a registered trade mark but do your homework check to make sure it is albeit i am pretty sure it is!
Ken
having said that, i guess this years bonus for the person concerned could be gone because the person has let slip in the sub title "Uneasy Settlement". Uneasy, true but for whom? obviously thats a very uneasy situation for the greedy, name snatching bunch. a miscalculated plot, advised and egged on by those copy & paste internet lawyers, ending in a completely humiliated defeat.
The osCommerce forum community is now decorating the forum (coincidentally?) for a big celebration!
there may be a small gain though for the bunch: apply for an entry in the guinness world records: the shortest life of a registered trade mark but do your homework check to make sure it is albeit i am pretty sure it is!
Ken
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#435
Posted 07 October 2009, 21:40
Hi Peter..
Yes, it actually is.
The pattern Rhea Anthony / Kerry Watson are showing is the same: criticize, criticize, and criticize. As soon as a false statement is corrected, they continue to criticize, criticize, and criticize with additional other statements. As soon as someone is this deep in criticizing, it's a waste of time defending ones self due to their own agenda.
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spax, on 07 October 2009, 20:24, said:
Kerry Watson's article may be one-sided and even poorly written but it isn't completely spurious in its content. Wouldn't you agree?
Yes, it actually is.
The pattern Rhea Anthony / Kerry Watson are showing is the same: criticize, criticize, and criticize. As soon as a false statement is corrected, they continue to criticize, criticize, and criticize with additional other statements. As soon as someone is this deep in criticizing, it's a waste of time defending ones self due to their own agenda.
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Edited by Harald Ponce de Leon, 07 October 2009, 21:45.
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#436
Posted 07 October 2009, 21:46
Harald Ponce de Leon, on 07 October 2009, 21:40, said:
... criticize, criticize, and criticize. ...
in short: nagging.
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#438
Posted 08 October 2009, 09:24
GemRock, on 07 October 2009, 21:26, said:
journalists by definition are and have to be biased
I disagree, I would remind you the BBC gained its reputation through impartiality, and its journalist don't have any issue publishing material that critises the BBC.
Perhaps some these days have departed from that ideal, but that's still not right.
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#439
Posted 08 October 2009, 09:40
spooks, on 08 October 2009, 09:24, said:
...the BBC gained its reputation through impartiality, and its journalist don't have any issue publishing material that critises the BBC...
off topic but you unfortunately use a bad example:
1. BBC is a public body and its paymaster is the tax payer or people who pay TV fees (which in effect is a tax);
2. so critising BBC does not amounting to attacking paymaster;
3. and so BBC takes complaints from people (who pay the fee) very seriously, and, unless you are burying your head in the sand you would have known there are every now and then quite a few BBC journalists got fired (the one show) or suspended w/o pay (Friday night JR), reasons? they all offend their paymasters ie who pay the tv fees.
let alone IMO there is no such things as "impartiality".
Ken
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#440
Posted 08 October 2009, 21:42
Hi Harald,
I was referring to that particular article, not the overall saga. From what I read, it all seems quite factual.
Though, I would take issue with -
"Founder and leader Harald Ponce de Leon has been absent from moderating his own community forum for nearly a year and, as a result, the forum has become a mass of porn spam."
- which is clearly untrue. There was a brief period when a lack of moderation allowed a barrage of spam but that statement is over-exagerated.
And this also. -
"the new group quickly completed the long-moribund oscommerce MS2.2"
- If adding a couple of mods and removing a couple of files qualifies as "completed", my MS2.2 is at MS5. And describing MS2.2 as "long-moribund" is an insult to the community.
As for the one-sided bias to Ms Watson's piece, wouldn't it be good to read an article that redressed the balance. Maybe you could pen one yourself. Or better still, you could host a Q&A session.
Harald Ponce de Leon, on 07 October 2009, 21:40, said:
Yes, it actually is.
The pattern Rhea Anthony / Kerry Watson are showing is the same: criticize, criticize, and criticize. As soon as a false statement is corrected, they continue to criticize, criticize, and criticize with additional other statements. As soon as someone is this deep in criticizing, it's a waste of time defending ones self due to their own agenda.
The pattern Rhea Anthony / Kerry Watson are showing is the same: criticize, criticize, and criticize. As soon as a false statement is corrected, they continue to criticize, criticize, and criticize with additional other statements. As soon as someone is this deep in criticizing, it's a waste of time defending ones self due to their own agenda.
I was referring to that particular article, not the overall saga. From what I read, it all seems quite factual.
Though, I would take issue with -
"Founder and leader Harald Ponce de Leon has been absent from moderating his own community forum for nearly a year and, as a result, the forum has become a mass of porn spam."
- which is clearly untrue. There was a brief period when a lack of moderation allowed a barrage of spam but that statement is over-exagerated.
And this also. -
"the new group quickly completed the long-moribund oscommerce MS2.2"
- If adding a couple of mods and removing a couple of files qualifies as "completed", my MS2.2 is at MS5. And describing MS2.2 as "long-moribund" is an insult to the community.
As for the one-sided bias to Ms Watson's piece, wouldn't it be good to read an article that redressed the balance. Maybe you could pen one yourself. Or better still, you could host a Q&A session.
