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[Coopco]

tuliptechnologies, on Jul 7 2008, 11:50 AM, said:

Hello.

Can anyone assist me why my website (www.firstalberta.com) is taking too long time to load the first page/time ?

I applied all suggestions as stated above like turn on GZIP and reduce the image size too.

Please let me know how to tune, it is taking nearly 30 to 40 sec's and i need to load the page in 1 sec.

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Thanks in Advance,
Kart.

get a faster internet connection, loaded in 3 secs for me.

[mrssocolov]

Sam - Thank you!!!!! Wonderful Tip and just what I was looking for!

- Marlo

[mrssocolov]

Tulip/Kart - refresh your browser. Loaded quickly for me too....

- Marlo

[Bruin_03]

tuliptechnologies, on Jul 7 2008, 01:50 AM, said:

Hello.

Can anyone assist me why my website (www.firstalberta.com) is taking too long time to load the first page/time ?

I applied all suggestions as stated above like turn on GZIP and reduce the image size too.

Please let me know how to tune, it is taking nearly 30 to 40 sec's and i need to load the page in 1 sec.

--
Thanks in Advance,
Kart.

Your header graphic is 125KB and your total page is HUGE, including those products under "new Products." YOu really should use multiple product images, as big product pictures take forever to load and even longer to squish. Chechout the multipcs contrib.

[spooks]

Try enabling page parse time so you can see how long your server is taking to set up the page.

If you want one sec, get rid of all those pics & flash at least.

[lindsayanng]

yours only took about 4 seconds on my cpu here.

[spooks]

There has been some talk that using gzip increases the server load which may cause problems if your site has lots of traffic.
However I  notice that with gzip enabled page parse time are significantly reduced.

Does anyone have any experiance of any problems using gzip?
Has anyone used gzip, then reverted for some reason.

My research shows that most top sites running on apache servers use gzip, they cant all be wrong.
Some may argue that they can afford the bandwidth so dont need to enable, but that ignores the user with a slow connection that would benifit greatly by the reduced size.



I`ve found a good test site if you wish to check yours: http://www.gidnetwork.com/tools/gzip-test.php

[Coopco]

spooks, on Aug 2 2008, 10:52 PM, said:

There has been some talk that using gzip increases the server load which may cause problems if your site has lots of traffic.
However I  notice that with gzip enabled page parse time are significantly reduced.

Does anyone have any experiance of any problems using gzip?
Has anyone used gzip, then reverted for some reason.

My research shows that most top sites running on apache servers use gzip, they cant all be wrong.
Some may argue that they can afford the bandwidth so dont need to enable, but that ignores the user with a slow connection that would benifit greatly by the reduced size.



I`ve found a good test site if you wish to check yours: http://www.gidnetwork.com/tools/gzip-test.php

Web page compressed? Yes
Compression type? gzip
Size, Markup (bytes) 61,944
Size, Compressed (bytes) 7,985
Compression % 87.1

Does not mean anything much, except that it confirms the page as being compressed.

[dave47]

Great mod as others have said. but when I was going to do the same to a phpBB forum I run, There's a warning message about enabling Gzip:

"Generated content will be compressed prior to sending it to the user. This can reduce network traffic but will also increase CPU usage on both server and client side."

I take that to mean, that anyone with an old machine their page load times increase?

So I'm not so sure about enabling the mod now?

[spooks]

A 'client' would have to have a very old slow machine to be effected by this, such would be so rare as to of no consequence. A slow connection is far more common & that would benifit.

Any increased load on the server appears to only be an issue where high traffic is an issue, so make your judgment based on that & your servers cpu capability.

As I've said most top sites running on apache servers use gzip, the few using windows (microsoft & some yahoo to my knowledge!) don't as its not an option.

I note this forum uses compression.

[theantiquestore]

I have all of my sites compressed, however, I just downloaded safari for a quick test and these sites will not load in safari. Once gzip compression is disabled they load perfectly fine without compression. Any ideas as to why that would happen?

[32 Degrees]

Very odd, I turned it on and have had great results in both FireFox & Safari. I am running an iMac. Check out my site at www.13thgreen.com and see if it loads fine for you.

[theantiquestore]

I've come to suspect its something in my server not sending the correct http headers. I just cant seem to get it figured out. I've googled for 2 days with no success.

[spooks]

theantiquestore, on Aug 12 2008, 05:51 PM, said:

I've come to suspect its something in my server not sending the correct http headers. I just cant seem to get it figured out. I've googled for 2 days with no success.

Have you submitted your site, to that test page, see if that shows anything odd.

[theantiquestore]

After some help from others, this is what I've been told. My server is using Apache 2.0. In apache 2, mod_gzip has been replaced by mod_deflate. I've also been told I need to code the site to use mod_deflate rather than gzip. So I was given these two links to try to figure out how to code this myself.

http://www.cpanel.net/support/docs/easyapa...late_module.htm

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_deflate.html

I'm afraid I dont actually have the skill level to accomplish coding this one on my own. So, I guess gzip is off for the moment.

[spooks]

theantiquestore, on Aug 13 2008, 02:45 PM, said:

After some help from others, this is what I've been told. My server is using Apache 2.0. In apache 2, mod_gzip has been replaced by mod_deflate. I've also been told I need to code the site to use mod_deflate rather than gzip. So I was given these two links to try to figure out how to code this myself.

http://www.cpanel.net/support/docs/easyapa...late_module.htm

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_deflate.html

I'm afraid I dont actually have the skill level to accomplish coding this one on my own. So, I guess gzip is off for the moment.

I think your host is just being lazy, not wanting to set it up, yes apache 2 uses mod_deflate but the compression is still gzip, I have sites on apache 2.2 with no problems using it.

[theantiquestore]

So, if the mod_deflate is set up correctly on the server, turning on gzip in oscommerce will work?

[spooks]

theantiquestore, on Aug 13 2008, 03:01 PM, said:

So, if the mod_deflate is set up correctly on the server, turning on gzip in oscommerce will work?

yes, should work fine then.

[azer]

after installing fck editor and lot of contrib in my admin i find it s a little bit long to load
i installed the code in my admin application_top , but i go not any clue how effcient is the gzip compression, any experiences ?

[spooks]

You should see a big increase in speed, there is a test page here

If you used the code from clients side as detailed in that other thread I'm not sure if it will work, I have'nt checked but it may never get activated, use the code I gave above instead.