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[seolinks]

This is a helfull article thanks guys

[d4funky1]

jpweber, on Nov 6 2006, 05:33 PM, said:

The Problem:
I hear many OSC people ask why they're not listed in Google yet, and I wanted to offer a posting that clears the confusion of why this is happening. There is no doubt anymore about the existence of The Google Sandbox, which came into existence in March of 2004 in an effort to clamp down on SPAM websites, among other things.

The Symptoms:
Basically, if your website is relatively new, and you're ranking in Yahoo, MSN, and others, but not Google, you're caught in the "Google Sandbox", which is referred to in other terms such as "Google Time Delay", or "Google Age Delay". Most refer to it as the "Google Sandbox", however.

What is the "Google Sandbox"?
This is a probationary period where your website is checked out. The Googlebot will index your website, but will not list you immediately. Do not panic! Things will be okay, although there is really nothing you can do to get out of the Sandbox or avoid it. Some people will suggest putting your site on a subdomain of an old trusted domain, and then setting up a 301 redirect to your new website after google has indexed the subdomain.

False Promises:
You will also see "SEO Companies" that promise you a listing in 50,000 search engines in 2 hours. Well, I only know of a few search engines that really count, and now you realize that nobody can promise you Google SERPS (search engine ranking position), because of the existence of the Sandbox. Nobody can guarantee you search engine rankings! Save your money and use your common sense. Use the strategies discussed in this posting, as well as others you can find on the web.

What can I do to get out (or avoid) the Google Sandbox?
I just say wait it out, but don't stand idle. The Sandbox will generally last for a period of 3-6 months. You will then start to see yourself get listed, assuming you've employed solid SEO techniques and have good content in your website. During your 3-6 month "probationary period", continue to add solid, relevant content to your website. Continue to list in pertinent, respected directories, and if you choose, engage in link exchanges with relevant, respected websites. Quality inbound links -- and quality outbound links -- will help your SERPS once you're out of the Google Sandbox. You can list with DMOZ, who are well-respected partners with Google and a free directory, but understand that with their lack of editors and strict rules and regulations, it can literally take anywhere from 3 months to 2 years to get listed in DMOZ. Search for other directories to list with, and other partners to exchange listings with.

Conclusion -- Keep Working!
So don't sit around and wonder "Why?". Continue to focus on your website. Ensure good SEO techniques. Ensure your page titles conform with the content on that page. Installing Jack's recent version (2.5.9 -- recent at the time of this posting) of the Header Tags Controller is a positive step. Or you may prefer to use Dynamic Product Meta Tags.

Either way, work on good, solid SEO techniques such as the suggestions I listed. Work on your content. Work on your (relevant and quality) backlinks. Be patient (with Google), and after your "probationary period" is overwith, watch your site climb up the rankings, and visits to your website increase, as a result.

Sounds like good advice - how are your sites doing? are you ranking well for your keywords in google?

Would love to know if all this is really worth it.

Many Thanks
D4

[lakelandprinting]

In my last post I mentioned that submitting my sitemap to Google made no difference. Well, it did! Most of my pages are out of the supplemental results. Also, many of my keyword phrases rank number 1 & 2. I'm psyched to see what my pagerank will be during the upcoming update.
I started this website in December 06 and during the January update I went to a PR 1, which actually surprised me. I'd like to see 3 or 4, and thankfully I have friends with high PR sites that linked to me.

Edited by Jan Zonjee, 04 July 2009, 14:59.

[lakelandprinting]

Here is my marketleap report since I started monitoring it:
[img]http://www.lakeland-printing.com/images/seochartpaws.jpg[/img]
This will be a good tool to look at if your website is new. You can see it took about a month for listings. Ever since I started submitting sitemaps to Google & Yahoo, it's been getting better.

[jpweber]

lakelandprinting, on Apr 2 2007, 03:52 PM, said:

In my last post I mentioned that submitting my sitemap to Google made no difference. Well, it did! Most of my pages are out of the supplemental results. Also, many of my keyword phrases rank number 1 & 2. I'm psyched to see what my pagerank will be during the upcoming update.
I started this website in December 06 and during the January update I went to a PR 1, which actually surprised me. I'd like to see 3 or 4, and thankfully I have friends with high PR sites that linked to me.

Well, submitting a sitemap will get your site "spidered" by search engine robots. It usually takes a month to get "listed" in yahoo and msn, and (as this thread is about) 3-6 months to get listed in Google. I believe the next PR update is in late September / early October, so just make sure your site is optimized and you're backlinking well.

[jpweber]

d4funky1, on Mar 7 2007, 05:19 PM, said:

Sounds like good advice - how are your sites doing? are you ranking well for your keywords in google?

Would love to know if all this is really worth it.

Many Thanks
D4

Phillip, I get sites to a PR3 all the time when the PR update comes up. My last site only had her domain for 3 months and she went from nothing to a PR3.

Anyway, does this make me a genius? Not at all. I'm not smarter than anyone else. Just read about what it takes, and that's all you need.

[wargaming]

Hi, sorry for asking such a simple question but while you are in the google sandbox will your site not appear in google searches at all or will it just not appear very high ? it doesn't seem to be stated anywhere i'm interested mainly due to my own site not being ranked very high on our biggest keyword.
We have implemented SEO and have google bots living on our site literally spending hours a day with usually at least 2-3 bots showing as online at all times we are still a relatively new site only being "live" for around 3 months with the domain being active for around 8 ( at a guess ) our last cache was mid feb on most of our keywords and we did climb a bit but not a great deal.

Thanks for any help in advance

[jpweber]

There's now a Wiki article on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_effect ...