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[survequip]

Hi,

We're looking in to using TargetEm SEO.

Has used this company before?
Opinions much appreciated!

Hope to hear back from anyone who has used or is using TargetEm.

Thanks

Paul

[tonystewart]

Not used them, but bearing in mind they are a commercial sponsor of this site, not too sure of the impartiality of replies you will get....

[survequip]

tonystewart, on Apr 11 2006, 07:00 PM, said:

Not used them, but bearing in mind they are a commercial sponsor of this site, not too sure of the impartiality of replies you will get....

Yes I know, and I'm hoping to hear good things... but either way, freedom of speech

Anyone? You can PM me if posting is a problem...

Thanks

[boxtel]

survequip, on Apr 12 2006, 05:36 PM, said:

Yes I know, and I'm hoping to hear good things... but either way, freedom of speech

Anyone? You can PM me if posting is a problem...

Thanks

not used them, not going to.

"We will put your website in the top-10 for your keywords. With the right budget, we can get you the #1 top spot.
And it will cost you nothing. After all, if it was going to cost money to optimize your website, you wouldn't do it. "

why need a budget if it costs nothing?

[survequip]

boxtel, on Apr 12 2006, 11:07 AM, said:

not used them, not going to.

"We will put your website in the top-10 for your keywords. With the right budget, we can get you the #1 top spot.
And it will cost you nothing. After all, if it was going to cost money to optimize your website, you wouldn't do it. "

why need a budget if it costs nothing?

Fair comment but so far they have answered all our questions quickly and in detail about how it works...

...nothing is free...

...thanks for your input.

Anyone else?

[boxtel]

survequip, on Apr 12 2006, 06:12 PM, said:

Fair comment but so far they have answered all our questions quickly and in detail about how it works...

...nothing is free...

...thanks for your input.

Anyone else?

I am sure but that quote speaks volumes.

[survequip]

boxtel, on Apr 12 2006, 11:23 AM, said:

I am sure but that quote speaks volumes.

boxtel, Would it be correct to presume you dont use / have ever used a SEO company?

[tonystewart]

Depends on your time/money ratio. If you have a good few hours to spare, you can find out most of what you need to know for free. This forum has loads of top notch seo advice, then there are a whole heapload of other such forums which do likewise (seoguy.com, digitalpoint.com to name but two). For the sake of 20 hours you can learn and implement all you need to know. For life. How much cash is your 20 hours worth? If you dont have the time, then sure seo services from third parties are great but honestly, you are much better off learning and doing for yourself. Hell, you got osc and learnt how to make your site yourself, why not go the whole hog?

Edited by Johnson, 17 April 2006, 02:00.

[thedailyspout]

SEO companies in general are a waste of time.. there is no such thing as a garenteed #1 position and its just fair to likely that you'll shell out big money to get ranked only to have some change done by the SE's that knocks you down to page 2 or 3 or 100.. Ive done SEO myself for the past year and while it does take time to learn its really all pretty basic definately alot easier then learning to edit OSC

[Baracat]

No, I didn't use those services.

But I searched in Google those keywords: SEO internet marketing (words in the targetem homepage's title) . Nothing. They even appeared in the top 100.

When I search for targetem, bingo. Of course, the first one.

Then I thought: What kind of business did they do? All of my costumers have to know the name of my company to find me in Google?


My 2 cents.
Regards.

[enigma1]

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SEO companies in general are a waste of time.. there is no such thing as a garenteed #1 position and its just fair to likely that you'll shell out big money to get ranked only to have some change done by the SE's that knocks you down to page 2 or 3 or 100.. Ive done SEO myself for the past year and while it does take time to learn its really all pretty basic definately alot easier then learning to edit OSC

Now that's far from the truth. Really depends how each seo company operates. On the one hand they can optimize your store for SEO and have/create enough traffic redirected to you, generating revenue. That's your primary objective anyways building a good customer base for your retail. On the other hand yea they could simply advertise a lot and do little. Really depends to whom you're talking to and his expertise with seo techniques as well as knowledge with the code base and available plugins.

[Moonlight]

Prefer to do SEO on my own. At least I have control over it. If I pay a company to do it for me and I dont' see my site highly listed, they could just say "oh well, it didn't work for you" when in actuality, they didn't do a darn thing but just take my money.

Plus, that quote stated above doesn't sit well with me.

This is just my personal opinion naturally. If you have the extra money to shell out, give it a whirl.

[enigma1]

Moonlight, on Jul 6 2006, 03:49 PM, said:

Prefer to do SEO on my own. At least I have control over it. If I pay a company to do it for me and I dont' see my site highly listed, they could just say "oh well, it didn't work for you" when in actuality, they didn't do a darn thing but just take my money.

Plus, that quote stated above doesn't sit well with me.

This is just my personal opinion naturally. If you have the extra money to shell out, give it a whirl.

you think that if a site is highly listed for some keywords would necessarily generate revenue? Yea you could set some diificult combinations of phrases and score at the top of search engine results. Of course is unlikely someone will ever search for them.

But what you really after is sales for your store. Meta-tags is just a small part of the overall marketing in e-commerce. seo covers multiple aspects of marketing. For instance having good affiliates can generate enormous revenue yet it may score low with search engine results (affiliates is part of seo although it may sound indirect).

Really depends what marketing channels someone can deploy with a store. And it all comes down to expertise and contacts.

[victor363]

If you want a job done right, you have to do it yourself. I have very little faith in the vast majority of designers when it comes to identifying and implementing ways to increase business. Personally, I would rather rely on my own research and the knowledge in these forums. With that information in one hand, and www.getafreelancer.com in the other - the sky is the limit!

(disclosure: I have zero experience with target 'em so for all I know they could be geniuses.)

[Vger]

I can guarantee one thing - if you ever pick up a phonecall from them or answer an email from them - you'll find it very difficult to get rid of them!

Most of these SEO companies use practices which will actually get you blacklisted by the major search engines - so best to stay clear of them. Learn how to do it for yourself.

Vger

[victor363]

I just took a quick look at their website - I got them from a ppc ad.

My first and only impression before leaving their website: they didn't follow Google's guidelines for building a proper landing page.

[mpiscopo]

SEO isn't rocket science. The people who use osCommerce are a different type of person than the average Joe. osCommerce users are typically smart do-it-yourselfers which know how to research, learn, and implement. If you're implementing osCommerce I can safely say that you can implement SEO with pretty much the same results as these SEO companies. The difficult part isn't learning SEO - it's putting in the time and effort to build links and write copy that's the hard part. These companies won't tell you much that you don't already know.

[b101aa2]

mpiscopo, on Jan 22 2007, 05:32 AM, said:

SEO isn't rocket science. The people who use osCommerce are a different type of person than the average Joe. osCommerce users are typically smart do-it-yourselfers which know how to research, learn, and implement. If you're implementing osCommerce I can safely say that you can implement SEO with pretty much the same results as these SEO companies. The difficult part isn't learning SEO - it's putting in the time and effort to build links and write copy that's the hard part. These companies won't tell you much that you don't already know.

Yep, osCommerce users are generally do-it-yourselfers. My company does seo work, but on the osc side, it is only for actual time it takes. Other systems that are non php can be a pain. giants clusters of crapioly. osc is great though. easy intergration. Most difficult part about it is just figuring out targeting and that requires research. There are many other additional things that can be done as well, but there is no such thing as a contrib for that. That just comes from experience. But I have noticed most SEo companies don't do it. Why, I dunno. Think these things do not dawn on them.

[toyicebear]

SEO optimization of Oscommerce should have a price less than 200 USD, that is for the max time used to implement all the needed mods.

[Jack_mcs]

I agree that there are some SEO companies out there that are charging way too much. But $200 divided by eight SEO contributions is $25 a contribution. That doesn't include selecting keywords and setting them up properly nor many of the other non-contribution changes that need to be made to a shop to properly optimize it. So unless your time is not very valuable, that price is way too low.

Jack